wine: questions on recent changes

danboston · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2016 Posts: 47

After an "emerge world" I found one news item. eselect news read yielded an interesting notice about wine being split into multiple packages. An excerpt:

danboston · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2016 Posts: 47

Hmmm.

Between

szatox · Advocate Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 3135

Wine, and wine-* are different packages. Any of those satisfies dependencies of virtual/wine, so you can chose the one you like most.
It seems that current app-emulation/wine will be completely dropped from portage, so yes, you will have to uninstall it if you want to keep your gentoo up to date. It doesn't change that much if you were fine with the old approach (the package just changes its name), but it will allow more flexibility, which is really cool.

Good move, maintainers, thanks

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:01 am Post subject:

I'm currently using app-emulation/wine-2.3 and I have the following line in /etc/portage/package/package.use/wine

Chiitoo · Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:58 am Post subject: ><)))°€

danboston,

Indeed, the packages are in Portage already, but they are masked until further tested.

If you were to do something like

Roman_Gruber · Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject:

BobWya · Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:55 pm Post subject:

NP-Hardass · n00b Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 36

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject:

steveL · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:52 pm Post subject:

Fitzcarraldo, I would just emerge wine-any so it's in world, and you don't need to worry about which combination will trigger the right dependency in the virtual.
It will satisfy the or-dep, as it's installed.

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks. I'm getting confused now! Are you saying that all I need to do is the following?:

1. Have only the following line in /etc/portage/package.use/wine:

steveL · Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:13 pm Post subject:

Pretty much, Fitzcarraldo, though I would just emerge -av app-emulation/wine-any on its own, first, so it is in world, then worry about the virtual which is likely a dependency of other things.

You may find you need a flag set on the virtual in order to satisfy those dependencies; I would set its flags to match wine-any (after you have wine-any safely installed with the flags you want) and then just let it get emerged automatically, or emerge -1av it.

Linubie · Guru Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 365

Do these changes also apply to wine git "wine-9999"?

or can I keep my settings in

/etc/portage/package.keywords

Leio · Developer Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia

I don't think from a quick skimming of the thread that this has been mentioned really yet, so:

By choosing to use wine-any, even if a specific patchset combination version via virtual/wine priority is sufficient, you will be getting updated versions slower than from e.g wine-vanilla or other specific patchset versions because the version update needs to wait for the patchset to actually be updated and in case of "any" also tested and made work all together.
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tld · Veteran Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 1816

Wow...maybe it's just me, but I have never been this confused by a news item or a change that I can recall. I'm currently just about up to date, and have the current stable app-emulation/wine-2.0 installed. What exactly is it that I'm supposed to be doing here to transition...and is it even necessary to do so? The news item keeps referencing the "old packaging" with the USE flags of "staging" and "d3d9" which don't seem to exist as USE flags in the old ebuild at all.

Clearly there's something fundamental I'm just missing here, but I might as well be trying to read something in Chinese. Thanks in advance for any explanation!

Tom

NP-Hardass · n00b Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 36

tld · Veteran Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 1816

Tony0945 · Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:36 pm Post subject:

Moderator: Please split this if it is considered off-topic.

From the wiki article I gather that if I emerge virtual/wine then the variant is chosen is by the flags on virtual/wine and I will only have one variant installed.

So, if I want both wine-vanilla ans say wine-any(to experiment with), I should NOT emerge virtual/wine. Is that correct?

In any case, I should remove app-emulation/wine from /var/lib/portage/world. Is that correct?

BobWya · Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:23 pm Post subject:

virtual/wine like all virtual/* 's allows other Gentoo packages to depend on the virtual package - rather than manually specifying all the alternatives, that the virtual package encompasses as dependencies...
These packages can be subject to change - which would make for a lot of churn in the Portage tree.

For example app-emulation/winetricks now has a run-time dependency on virtual/wine (ignoring the or condition):

NP-Hardass · n00b Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 36

Tony0945 · Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:01 pm Post subject:

BobWya · Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:34 pm Post subject:

Tony0945 · Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:24 pm Post subject:

Chiitoo · Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject: ><)))°€

gentoorockerfr · Apprentice Joined: 25 May 2012 Posts: 203

I cannot install eselect-wine...it is strange.. i think that right words are in the package.keywords and use...