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Oschtan
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 Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:29 am Post subject: LXDE Full |
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Why LXDE-environment does not include the full set of daily applications? I propose to supplement the package lxde-base/lxde-meta or create a new package in the tree lxde-base/lxde-meta-full the following applications:
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pulseaudio? ( media-sound/pavucontrol )
gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor # instead of lxde-base/lxtask
media-gfx/gnome-screenshot
gnome-extra/gnome-calculator
x11-misc/light-locker # amazing that it is not set in the standard
app-editors/leafpad
app-arch/file-roller
x11-misc/parcellite
x11-libs/libfm-extra
torrent? ( net-p2p/transmission )
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Agree - the charm is LXDE applications on Gtk + (no heavy Qt) and there is nothing wrong with it in addition to using the Gnome application environment |
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fedeliallalinea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:36 am Post subject: |
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You can create your own set (thanks to asturm  )
| Code: | # mkdir /etc/portage/sets/
# echo -e 'lxde-base/lxde-meta\nmedia-sound/pavucontrol\ngnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor\nmedia-gfx/gnome-screenshot\ngnome-extra/gnome-calculator\nx11-misc/light-locker\napp-editors/leafpad\napp-arch/file-roller\nx11-misc/parcellite\nx11-libs/libfm-extra\nnet-p2p/transmission' > /etc/portage/sets/my-lxde
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V10lator
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:56 am Post subject: Re: LXDE Full |
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| Oschtan wrote: | | Why LXDE-environment does not include the full set of daily applications? |
Cause that's not LXDEs job. You're allowed to install whatever daily applications you like.
| Quote: | | Agree - the charm is LXDE applications on Gtk + (no heavy Qt) and there is nothing wrong with it in addition to using the Gnome application environment |
With using gome apps you call in many gnome dependencies. Now you shouldn't compare QT and GTK as QT is more than just a drawing toolkit. It might be more fair to compair QT with GTK + all the gnome dependencies you want to pull in (many people I know use LXDE to get rid of the heavy gnome dependencies).
See also: https://web.archive.org/web/20160423125350/http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/GTK_vs_Qt and https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/some-numbers-about-lxqt-for-those-who-are-curious/ |
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Roman_Gruber
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Gentoo is about choice.
I tried those lxde and other De. I was not very fond of pulling in additional applications. A De should only pull in the needed base functionality. I just want the opposite. I can choose myself which file archiver and such. some do not even use file managers, file archivers, pdf readres, image viewers, calculators.
e.g. google-chrome offers quite a decent calculator
file archiver => cli is faster and works on any box.
I hardly use those meta packages anymore. Too many dependencies which screws up portage on a later point.
| Quote: | | media-gfx/gnome-screenshot |
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| Code: | ASUS-G75VW roman # scrot
ASUS-G75VW roman # ls
2017-02-02-215455_1920x1080_scrot.png |
instantly a file called => 2017-02-02-215455_1920x1080_scrot.png, proper named with date and time.
Of course I wrote my custom key bindings for my desctop environment
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viewing that screenshot
| Code: | ASUS-G75VW roman # feh 2017-02-02-215455_1920x1080_scrot.png
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IMHO => gtk+ / qt is just bloated, big memory usage!
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| Code: | | xscreensaver-command --lock; sleep 1 && xset dpms force off |
xscreensaver is a decent screensaver. lock parameter locks the screen. I wait for one second so one instantly hit of my key does not wake up my screen. Than I disable the power of my screen backlight of my LVDS |
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Oschtan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Scrot... Quick snapshot of some window or some area? Or such excesses for wimps? And only from the console?
Light-locker... Is amazing that "Lock Screen" menu is present, and there is no lock. |
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Roman_Gruber
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I just assign a key combination to those commands.
You need to edit a screenshot anyway usually. And I can not ever remember needing just a window screenshot. for myself a screenshot is the hole X-screen. Gimp is much faster to crop or do other things. I just screenshot and place it in my self made /screenshot folder in my home.
I doubt any DE will use this "dpms force off" to not degrade my backlight of my LVDS. |
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