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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:09 pm    Post subject: ntpsec? Reply with quote

Is anybody working on an official ntpsec package?

https://www.ntpsec.org/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interest seconded. Of course the other answer might be that it's time to learn how to do my own ebuilds - beyond the minor patching and stuff that I've done already.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:52 am    Post subject: ntpsec ebuild Reply with quote

Not that I am aware of. I have a fan ebuild (9999) which I have been working on
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some quick review comments about try #3:
  1. For ntpviz, are those dependencies needed at build time? Currently, the ebuild insists on them at build time and at runtime, but the ebuild neither uses anything from those packages nor tells upstream's waf script whether to enable them. Thus, they appear to me to be runtime-only. If upstream uses them any time they are found (an automagic dependency, which is discouraged), then you should either patch upstream not to do that or depend on them unconditionally.
  2. What is the point of local group_127?
  3. You can use use_enable as a shorthand for your use ... && echo --enable-.... See man 5 ebuild for usage instructions.
  4. You specify a mandir, but then use a mv in src_install as if upstream ignored your specified mandir. Is this a remnant from an earlier attempt or does upstream not fully respect the supplied mandir?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. gnuplot and libration-ttf? are need at run time not compile time.
2. group_127 is a remnant from an attempt to include each refclock seperately using a loop.
3. use_enable does not work because waf choked on the --without responses.
4. current waf does not support mandir correctly if I remember correctly.

weird thing also seem to happen if using python 3.{3,4}
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a package is only needed at runtime, it should be in RDEPEND and not in DEPEND. Users could theoretically build ntpviz on a system that lacks those supporting packages, then install it on a system which has them. This is particularly common among people who use a central build host that serves multiple machines.

As for 3 and 4: ah, the joys of a barely functional upstream build system. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try four : add systemd service, sample configs, CDEPEND and ntpdate script
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesb192 wrote:
try four : add systemd service, sample configs, CDEPEND and ntpdate script

jamesb192,
Could you provide it on GitHub? So people could cooperate online and when it's finished you could start the pull request.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

github link

Last edited by jamesb192 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:46 pm; edited 1 time in total
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OpenNTPD is pretty secure too, just throwing that out there, it's from the OpenBSD guys, the pros ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesb192 wrote:
1. gnuplot and libration-ttf? are need at run time not compile time.

...A system service daemon needs a graphing package and a font? I hope that can be disabled via USE options...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are requirements of ntpviz a monitoring tool not part of the time daemon but included in the package.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesb192 wrote:
they are requirements of ntpviz a monitoring tool not part of the time daemon but included in the package.

...and looking at the ebuild I see the use flag for that. Great!

jamesb192 wrote:
... add systemd service, ...

May I respectfully request that you not assume the environment is systemd-based? There are sites using openrc who may want to install ntpsec.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

openrc script included
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

metadata/layout.conf and profiles/repo_name would be nice, see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Repository_format.
That way, people could add it to their /etc/portage/repos.conf.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

done. but I should probably consider rewriting both.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, jamesb192! It's nice to have this package.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Added it to the listing in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update the ebuild and moved the repository. If someone could shift the link at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol that would be great.
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