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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:34 am    Post subject: Anyone know the biggest website running on Gentoo? Reply with quote

Hi, can anyone direct me to some big sites running on Gentoo?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccosse,

Gentoo runs on Gentoo :)

Why do yo ask?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Neddy,
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Gentoo runs on Gentoo :)

Oh yeah that would make sense.

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Why do yo ask?

Well, for my own info ... just to know.
And also so I can use it as a selling point when advocating to use Gentoo at work.
If amazon.com was running on Gentoo, for example, then you don't need to say anything more, sold!

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So, are there any other heavyweight icons of the internet running Gentoo?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccosse,

I don't know of any.

There are a few publicly known large Gentoo deployments but off hand I don't recall what for.
There has been at least two written up for the gentoo website over the years.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, it would be interesting if there were some corpus of who-runs-which Linux, which server software, which framework, which hosting company ... all sorted by magnitude-of-site.

Do you think it would be bad advice for me to recommend that my employer, who has great ambitions, migrate from AWS + Ubuntu to Linode + Gentoo?

I was going to recommend going to Host Virtual, who I've used for a long time on account of the fact that they used to run a permanent ad for Gentoo hosting on the main Gentoo website front page (you probably recall) but they don't have load balancers, and everyone needs load balancers nowadays ... linode.com has some pretty good docs, btw, discussing various website scaling options.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccosse,

You need to be very careful recommending any source based distro for a production environment.

All the users I'm aware of that use Gentoo in production build and test their own binary packages, then deploy the tested binaries.
You really can't afford to have production down for a day or so, while you sort out an issue.

If the flexibility you get from Gentoo is worth more than the test burden in your use case, Gentoo may be the way to go.
What matters to production is that it works and its stable. Red Hat do the testing for you when you choose RHEL.
You do it when you choose Gentoo.

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This also means that all the production Gentoo deployments are different. Its probably not useful to know about Gentoo deployments. e.g.
Code:
 www-servers/apache
     Available versions:  (2) 2.2.31 2.2.31-r1 2.4.23 (~)2.4.23-r1 2.4.23-r2

There are five versions of apache in the tree today. A gentoo deployment can be using any one of them, or even a version no longer in the tree. Its a user choice.
Then there are USE flags and apache modules.
With RHEL, you get what you get.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Neddy, for the sound advice.
Wishing you an excellent day!
-Charles
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least some parts of local (Finland) IT consumer magazine's web pages (and propably something else too) were run on Gentoo. The magazine rescently was sold to another publisher, so I don't know the status anymore.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zucca wrote:
At least some parts of local (Finland) IT consumer magazine's web pages (and propably something else too) were run on Gentoo. The magazine rescently was sold to another publisher, so I don't know the status anymore.


Thanks for that, Zucca.

NeddySeagoon wrote:

There are five versions of apache in the tree today. A gentoo deployment can be using any one of them, or even a version no longer in the tree. Its a user choice.
Then there are USE flags and apache modules.


Although with virtualenvs, docker and 1-button cloning I guess reproducibility is not quite the issue it once was.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccosse,

Not with the same deployment, no reproducibility is never a problem.

If I list 10 large Gentoo users for web servicies (I can't) they could all be running different versions of Apache and all built with different USE flags.
It not useful to compare such an install base with a binary distro, where much of the choice has been made for you.

Gentoo is really only the portage package manager and the ebuild repository. Everything else is $UPSTREAM.
Think of Gentoo as a toolkit you use to to build your own distro. Everyone makes different choices.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall a thread on FreeBSD forums, a few years ago. They had a Gentoo webserver and it was barely able to serve all requests. So they were thinking _upgrading_ it to the FreeBSD. They were shocked to find out FreeBSD performance was only half of Gentoo. Damn penguin, they said.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use gentoo for my small business (not IT-related).
The configuration is a gnome desktop and my current worldfile. It boots in 3 seconds or so, so this is not sufficient, cause making coffee and looking over snailmail takes much longer, so a daily update world is welcome.

I tried, but I can't live with anything else -- need this feeling of control...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
I recall a thread on FreeBSD forums, a few years ago. They had a Gentoo webserver and it was barely able to serve all requests. So they were thinking _upgrading_ it to the FreeBSD. They were shocked to find out FreeBSD performance was only half of Gentoo. Damn penguin, they said.


Ahaha, this is indeed a feel good story... I may still be bitter from my failure to install FreeBSD on my server and opting to use OpenBSD instead but hey glad to see the linux team hold its own in the server segment against BSD.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Chrome OS uses portage :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a link to the old newsletter about NASA using Gentoo. The old original link does not work, but found the link below. Who knows if NASA is still using Gentoo.

http://gentoo-handbook.lugons.org/news/en/gwn/20051205-newsletter.xml

Bryan Green is on linkedin, you might be able to ask him, though he is no longer with NASA. Since he is with Grid Net, they may be using Gentoo.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-green-97a11315
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