World Of Warcraft Support UPDATED 2016 Edition

Aiken · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:13 pm Post subject:

Had not realised that. Does not worry me too much considering multiple times a version that worked for me has been removed from the tree so I have fallen back to a working version still in my local overlay.
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Will there be a wine version that is just emerged and supports wow again? Or will that mingw Or will that mingw crosscompiling toolchain stuff be mandatory from now on? I had a look at gentoo mingw wiki but I don't understand yet, what I need to do to get system wine running wow successfully again.

For now I download playonlinux wine staging and use it to launch WoW through lutris, but thats just my workaround.

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eccerr0r · Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:28 pm Post subject:

Woah.
I got my other machine working again *IN LINUX* inadvertently.

For grins i installed Wine-vanilla-5.0.1 and tried running WoW. I did not do any patching to Wine-vanilla ebuild. It actually started running without the weird shared memory file problem. But it hung... very similar to the issue as Windows 7 (which I still have not been able to get working!) - it opened a window and stuck there. Wine did report a paging fault of some kind in the logs as it hung.

So for more grins I tried running wine-staging 5.0.20 again... AND IT STARTED WORKING! Was able to login after b.net another update, but logged in!

Graphics - I noticed I'm seeing similar psychedelic coloring on this machine (intel graphics), but I seem to be able to lightswitch it by turning on DX11-legacy. DX11 "normal" runs about 10% slower but does not have the color problems. 10% might not seem much but I'm fighting for every frame per second on these slow GPUs...

I will need to see how bad this looks in Bastion again. The blackened roads are pretty unnerving as one feels like they're going to fall off the world at any time into a black pit, coupled with the fact it seems there are spots where you can fall into an endless pit in Bastion (anyone know?!)

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Bastion looks like a bastard too. However I did notice this error:

eccerr0r · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:15 am Post subject:

Curiosity - do people see a window flash by every time they start WoW? The window opens and instantly closes, if you're not looking you'll never see the window show up.

Is this Warden starting up? Or something else?

Just a little paranoid at unexpected windows showing up...

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Also, anyone tried wine-staging 6.1 yet?
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eccerr0r · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:10 am Post subject:

Wow, got a mega patch lately.

Also another stealth patch today, except b.net launcher gives a black screen now where just a few days ago it was fine!

"wine-vk-init Failed to load Wine graphics driver supporting vulkan." -- uh... I said I didn't have a card that supports vulkan :(

Sigh. Fortunately agent is still running and downloading patches, just can't see the progress within b.net app.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:43 am Post subject:

Seems the recent update to =media-libs/mesa-21.0.3 breaks some peoples' Wine-WoW. Fails with a very weird bad X11 event.

Unmasking =media-libs/mesa-21.1.2 appears to have fixed it. No improvement on graphics front.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:58 am Post subject:

I'm going to rant here.

First off, battle.net client is blackscreen after I login or continue without logging in. Okay, fine, it's a GUI.

What really pisses me off:

Agent.exe

Agent appears to be the "bittorrent" or distributed downloader. At only 400KB/sec, I can't believe it completely chomps down one core of my i7 100% of the time. It even occasionally pulls all 8 threads of my i7.

A DOWNLOADER using this much CPU? Granted sure it may need to do hash checks but it's NOT reading the disk at the time. What *IS* Agent.exe doing? If Blizzard sees this, they better not be busy waiting in this piece of software, writing busy loops like this is so... 40 years ago!!!

I tried downclocking my i7 to 1.6GHz... download speed does not change. Another clue it's busy looping instead of truly cpu-bound...

if only I could gdb this...well I should... and find out it indeed is busylooping in its scheduler. DIE DIE DIE BLIZZARD CRAP CRAP SOFTWARE.

Okay rant off. *sigh* Or maybe someone can please tell me it's a wine "bug" trying to emulate a windows feature where windows can do events and wine can't...
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Standard advice when you suspect a busy-loop would be to attach a debugger, run to completion of the current function, observe eip (32-bit) or rip (64-bit), then repeat. After some number of iterations, you will find the program running free again, because the function you are trying to finish is long-lived and is looping without returning. Once you know the layer at which the program is looping, you know where to explore to see what the program is doing.

You could also try to strace the process and look for suspiciously repeating syscalls.

eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:41 am Post subject:

LOL the wine app crashed as soon as I attached strace to it.
It's probably detecting it to ensure nobody is debugging their software... *sigh* (Blizzard has been known do do this bs)
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eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:34 pm Post subject:

Seems wine-staging 6.10 works with the battle.net GUI whereas 5.22 doesn't, alas 5.22 will play the main game but not 6.10 for me...
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eccerr0r · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:49 pm Post subject:

strange... might be hardware dependent?
5.22 failed battle.net client when they upgraded to shadowlands. Was very suspicious IMHO. Unfortunately it seems that regression testing happens with newer versions of the client and we're forced to eventually keep going with newer versions of wine... sigh.

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Oh cool... I got 6.10 to work sort of... it got to the login screen for the first time. Hopefully can now delete 5.22 if 6.10's stable ... still have three hours to wait to fully test...

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Okay 6.10 does sort of work...except wineserver uses 100% CPU when logged in!!! Wow, uses 2x as much CPU power as before. Grr.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:08 pm Post subject:

In case people were wondering, due to a lot of outstanding issues, I don't really keep track of things anymore.
Tried to run b.net on wine-6.14, and well, at least wineserver doesn't take 100% CPU but Agent.exe and Battle.net take two cores worth of CPU cycles. WTF Blizzard-Activision. You don't write code like this sh*t!!! (know what, I wonder if I affinitied all these processes on the same core, whether it would slow anything down. Hah.)

Not sure if the game still runs, last I recalled wine-5.x was the best without causing wineserver to hit 100% CPU. Also my RadeonHD 5770 bit the big one, and a HD 6450 took its place for the meantime. The 6450 is a significantly slower GPU, but I do wonder if the graphics artifacting changed any as this card probably supports newer MESA drivers. Alas I don't think I can fully test at this time.

As an aside I wonder if it's possible to run two HD6450's SLI'ed (or is it crossfire?). HD6450's are dime a dozen even in the pandemic chip shortage (which tbh is a bunch of hogwash for gpus, unless it was due to all the bitcoin farmers) and I could stick in two of them into my machine.
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Aiken · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:26 pm Post subject:

I occasionally have Agent.exe go 100% on a core and stop responding. Usually end up smacking it with a kill -9.

Last wine staging where everything worked for me with wow was 6.17. Currently on 6.20 as gw2 runs better for me than it did with 6.17 but that came a cost of 3 wine Program Error windows while starting the battle net app. Let wow update to 9.1.5 and logged in. Stormwind worked with 6.20. It seems to be just the battlenet app that has a problem with 6.20 for me.

No time left in wow to try out more. At the moment gw2 is setting which version of wine I use and not wow. Sometimes log in with a low level char to see if wow still works when I update wine.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:36 am Post subject:

Still wondering if bastion is still messed up or not with its black grounds, getting out there would be a PITA.

Then again this "new" video card is not much different than the old one though a lot slower. Also it seems that water transparency is always off or something on the 6450 whereas on higher rendering levels, water looked somewhat transparent on the 5770. Hmm. Might need to futz with it some more.

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Seems wine-staging-6.14 works for me for both main and b.net. 6.20 seems to ok for main but has some issues with b.net ... can't seem to locate install.

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Uhoh! Is Activision-Blizzard going to become Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard?

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I ended up having access to another machine to play with, whose onchip graphics is pretty fast compared to my old machine, but has a slow mechanical hard drive. Apparently WoW does not work when installed on NFS to my SSD machine, but apparently I can symlink just the data.* files over NFS and it works... Wish I could just hardcode the path of the shmem file to something on ext4fs and have it work that way...
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eccerr0r · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:53 pm Post subject:

Was wondering about different old video cards and playability (if at least at a rudimentary level, likely not fast enough for raiding or PvP) - as well as what Mesa actually emulates or not. Almost seems there is no emulation anymore, at least of some features - it just reports to the game the feature doesn't exist and the game quits because of the lack of a feature.

So the tests... Most of these was with Shadowlands 9.X engine. Note that all of these video solutions worked at some point in the past, but appears some are getting dropped. I recall playing on my G965 at one point, but it does not work any longer.

Key:
⛔ (Game does not start, reports that minimum GPU requirements not met)
❗ (Warns that support will be dropped soon, but will login)
✅ (Game starts and runs)
❓ (Don't know yet)

I don't think I have crocus going for the Intel devices but not sure if it really matters -

⛔ Intel G965 (Chipset graphics)
⛔ Intel Q45 (Chipset graphics)
❗ Intel Sandybridge Graphics (Core 2-series)
✅ Intel Ivybridge Graphics (Core 3-series)
✅ Intel Haswell Graphics (Core 4-series) (kind of buttery) (DX11?)
⛔ ATI Radeon X800XL
✅ ATI Radeon HD 5770 (before it died) (DX9)
❗ ATI Radeon HD 6350 (Really Slow)
❗ ATI Radeon HD 6450 (Slow of course but better than the HD 6350) (DX11)
✅ ATI Firepro V3900 (DX11)
✅ ATI Firepro W2100 (kind of buttery!) (DX12)
✅ ATI R7 250 (buttery!) (DX12)
❗ Nvidia Geforce 8400S (NVA8, Really Slow, kills whole display performance in login screen)
✅ Nvidia NVS 310 (NVD8, really slow)

(added W2100)
(changed the 6450 to include support drop warning)
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