Anyway to install kde 4 on fresh install of Gentoo

[voncloft]

It seems Gentoo is becoming "less customizable" with software, in particular KDE 5.

I have tried to use the new KDE 5 plasma, but can never get the eselect opengl nvidia set to work, I get the black screen of death - I can only get it to work via kde 4 (I have searched the forums and google with no fix in sight - no optimus is used just a plain nvidia gtx 960 card is used).

I searched overlays of gentoo, and the portage tree itself, but it looks like kde 4 is no longer available.

Before I leave gentoo once and for all (that is a deal breaker: no kde 4 = me leaving and switching to linux mint 17.3 (it has linux 4 and is supported until 2019 - has a few bugs with it but is manageable)) OR I might go to linux from scratch (basically it is gentoo but I would be the package manager :-/) is there anyway to install kde 4 and keep it on there until I see fit to install kde 5 on my own fresh system again.

KDE 5 is too buggy for me to use in my own personal opinion - and do not think it is ready for release.

Thanks

Note: I have tried the best I can to be as professional about this topic as possible - please do the same.

[asturm]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE#Plasma_4

Plasma-4 is certainly available, what problem do you have with KDE Applications? Anyway, there also is https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/kde-sunset.git/

[voncloft]

[asturm]

Certainly having Plasma-4 installed will prevent Plasma-5. But why exactly do you want to reinstall?

Btw plenty of Nvidia users successfully run Plasma-5, so I'm really wondering what's going wrong in your case.

[voncloft]

I had to do a fresh reinstall recently - for unrelated reasons, i tried to install kde - got kde 5 so I figured I would try it out.

It only worked with eselect opengl x11 set

not nvidia

everytime nvidia is selected a black screen appears for login (tried sddm and lightdm - neither worked; searched high and low for multiple solutions, never worked)

It may work for others, - not sure how they made it work, but I know how to get kde 4 to work - and I want to stick to it as long as I can.

I am currently at work and won't be able to debug for another 8 hours sadly :-/

I'll take kde 4 as long as the desktop effects are availalbe (eg: wobbly windows and desktop cube)

[asturm]

KDE 4 is dead, you'll get Plasma-4 (which was part of it) and KDE Applications.

[voncloft]

Ok thanks for the info - I will be moving to linux from scratch; where I make all the calls lol

[asturm]

Well that's what I've been talking about all the time (while not quite seeing the issue with using KDE Applications). But didn't you see the kde-sunset.git link above?

[voncloft]

Yes but I cannot determine if it is kde 4 or 5

[asturm]

Please forget about "KDE 4" or "KDE 5". In tree, you have the choice of Plasma-4 and Plasma-5, and then there are KDE Applications which are universally usable.

[voncloft]

Ok, I've never really thought about the plasma aspect of it I always called them kde4/5 - the working parts to me are basically : it works or it doesn't, the moving pieces to me are like are a car - don't know how it works...but it works

[asturm]

A car also has plenty of replaceable parts.

I think the guide has that really well covered: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE

Also: https://blogs.gentoo.org/kensington/2015/08/28/theres-no-such-thing-as-kde-5-and-its-status-on-gentoo/

[voncloft]

[asturm]

It works for other people: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7945356.html#7945356

[proteusx]

[davidbrooke]