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GenHeDi
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 Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:44 pm Post subject: How to remove konqueror from KDE |
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Hello,
In order to keep my Gentoo installation as lean as possible, I want to remove konqueror from my KDE installation. So, I executed: | Code: | | emerge -aC kde-apps/konqueror |
But after doing: | Code: | | emerge -a --depclean |
Following message is shown:
| Code: | * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
* mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
* be kept. They can be manually added to this set with
* `emerge --noreplace <atom>`. Packages that are listed in
* package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
* depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
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* As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
* unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved. As a
* consequence of this, it often becomes necessary to run
* `emerge --update --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean.
Calculating dependencies... done!
* Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
* the following required packages not being installed:
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* >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/nsplugins-4.14.3
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* >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/kdebase-meta-4.14.3
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* >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/konq-plugins-4.14.3
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* Have you forgotten to do a complete update prior to depclean? The
* most comprehensive command for this purpose is as follows:
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* emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world
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* Note that the --with-bdeps=y option is not required in many
* situations. Refer to the emerge manual page (run `man emerge`)
* for more information about --with-bdeps.
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* Also, note that it may be necessary to manually uninstall
* packages that no longer exist in the portage tree, since it may
* not be possible to satisfy their dependencies. |
And during a emerge update of world the konqueror package is pulled in again.
My question: how can I get rid of konqueror as clean as possible? Thanks in advance.
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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You can't. konqueror is part of the kdebase-meta package.
I believe you can hack it by putting it in package.provided, but that is a hack and anything that uses konqueror will fail in what might be completely unexpected ways.
Alternately you can make your own kdebase-meta package in your local overlay and remove konqueror. But again, this is a hack that may cause unexpected problems.
It is certainly unsupported by upstream.
If you really want a lean system you might want to look into other desktop environments/window managers. KDE and gnome are known for being a bit bloated by design.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Code: | * >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/nsplugins-4.14.3
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* >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/kdebase-meta-4.14.3
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* >=kde-apps/konqueror-4.14.3:4[-aqua] pulled in by:
* kde-apps/konq-plugins-4.14.3 |
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this segment states, that nsplugins, kdebase-meta and konq-plugins are dependent on konqueror.
basically remove those conflicting packages, but also add any other packages were dependent on kdebase-meta. otherwise you get some outdated packages.
just have a look at the ebuild (/usr/portage/kde-apps/kdebase-meta/kdebase-meta-4.14.3.ebuild), on what to emerge.
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GenHeDi
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your response, I will give it a try.
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GenHeDi
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm afraid it will be a tough challenge to remove Konqueror, see attached output:
| Code: | cat /usr/portage/kde-apps/kdebase-meta/kdebase-meta-4.14.3.ebuild
# Copyright 1999-2015 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Id$
EAPI=5
inherit kde4-meta-pkg
DESCRIPTION="Merge this to pull in all kdebase-derived packages"
KEYWORDS="amd64 ~arm ppc ppc64 x86 ~amd64-linux ~x86-linux"
IUSE="+display-manager minimal +wallpapers"
RDEPEND="
$(add_kdeapps_dep dolphin)
$(add_kdebase_dep kcheckpass '' 4.11)
wallpapers? ( $(add_kdeapps_dep kde-wallpapers '' 4.11) )
$(add_kdeapps_dep kde-base-artwork)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kdebase-runtime-meta)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kdialog)
$(add_kdeapps_dep keditbookmarks)
$(add_kdebase_dep kephal '' 4.11)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kfind)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kfmclient)
$(add_kdeapps_dep konq-plugins)
$(add_kdeapps_dep konqueror)
$(add_kdeapps_dep konsole)
$(add_kdebase_dep kscreensaver '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kstartupconfig '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kstyles '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep ksystraycmd '' 4.11)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kwrite)
$(add_kdeapps_dep libkonq)
$(add_kdebase_dep liboxygenstyle '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep libplasmaclock '' 4.11)
$(add_kdeapps_dep nsplugins)
$(add_kdeapps_dep phonon-kde)
$(add_kdeapps_dep plasma-apps)
$(add_kdebase_dep qguiplatformplugin_kde '' 4.11)
!minimal? (
$(add_kdebase_dep freespacenotifier '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kcminit '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kdebase-cursors '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kdebase-startkde '' 4.11)
$(add_kdeapps_dep kdepasswd)
$(add_kdebase_dep khotkeys '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kinfocenter '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep klipper '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kmenuedit '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep krunner '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep ksmserver '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep ksplash '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep ksysguard '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kwin '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep kwrited '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep libkworkspace '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep libplasmagenericshell '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep libtaskmanager '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep plasma-workspace '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep powerdevil '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep solid-actions-kcm '' 4.11)
$(add_kdebase_dep systemsettings '' 4.11)
!prefix? ( display-manager? ( || ( $(add_kdebase_dep kdm '' 4.11) x11-misc/lightdm x11-misc/sddm ) ) )
)
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If I understand correctly, the above mentioned packages are depending on the kdebase-meta package.
But nonetheless, thank you very much for your support
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| GenHeDi wrote: | I'm afraid it will be a tough challenge to remove Konqueror, see attached output:
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If I understand correctly, the above mentioned packages are depending on the kdebase-meta package. |
No, they're pulled in by the kdebase-meta package.
You don't need kdebase-meta; you can just install the packages you want, starting with kde-base/kdebase-startkde.
No idea why that changed name from the simpler kde-base/startkde apart from tedious obfuscation to enforce a gentle putsch. |
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asturm
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| steveL wrote: | | to enforce a gentle putsch. |
And by that you mean... 
I don't know when or why it was renamed, but it is documented.
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@genstorm: I'm not getting into a troll-fest with you, so kindly leave me alone.
I feel sorry for you, but not that sorry.
If you wanted to get at automated dependencies, you could have. Instead you chose the disingenuous troll-lolol route, designed to take the thread off in an unwelcome direction, picking at an off-the-cuff remark that has little to do with the topic. |
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GenHeDi
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I am not a seasoned pro on portage yet. Can you give me more background information on which steps I have to go through? How can I ensure, for example, that konqueror is no longer pulled in by the kdebase-meta package. Erase the kdebase-meta package?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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You would need to uninstall it like so:
| Code: | | # emerge -C kdebase-meta |
Be aware that a followup --depclean would remove many KDE packages from your system. You are then responsible for your own selection of KDE applications, and you can choose to keep them with `emerge --noreplace <package-name>`.
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GenHeDi
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oke, that sounds like a challenge. With my current level of experience, I'm afraid it will become a "Penny wise pound foolish" road trip.
I keep this project for a later date when I have more experience.
Nevertheless, thank you very much for your advice and help.
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