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fourth n00b
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:34 am Post subject: Help me pick a terminal :) |
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I started with LXDE and tried a few other DE's then came back to LXDE. LXterminal however doesn't work the way I expect it to in two critical ways I'm used to with the windows command prompt (which I've been used to for nearly 20 years since NT3.51)
What I'm hoping for is a terminal that can do cut, by simply select a portion of the screen, then something like enter or a right click in the area to execute the cut, and secondly, a paste which is just a right click.
Anyone know of a console that works like this? |
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krinn Watchman
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:44 am Post subject: |
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i don't know any that allow cut, simply because it makes no sense to cut anything in a terminal. Why cutting something that was made already?
if you just seek copy/paste, select what you want, and middle click where you want it (yeah i know it's too simple) |
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fourth n00b
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, that's pretty much perfect as is. I had no idea that merely selecting text would put it on the clipboard. |
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khayyam Watchman
Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Posts: 6227 Location: Room 101
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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fourth wrote: | Thanks, that's pretty much perfect as is. I had no idea that merely selecting text would put it on the clipboard. |
fourth ... given this is a terminal, and so shell, you can use stdout to place the output on the clipboard (with the use of x11-misc/xclip), eg:
Code: | % echo hello | xclip |
Also, the clipboard can be used from within 'command line' utilities, ie vim:
paste the clipboard
copy selection to clipboard (ie, using visual and range respectively)
Code: | :'<,'>!xclip
"*y1,5 |
HTH & best ... khay |
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ShaneCar n00b
Joined: 27 Oct 2015 Posts: 4 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would take a look at Gnome 3 as a potential alternative to LXDE. Gnome is lightweight, has great UI and very intuitive. Gnome also has very simple command lines. You may also want to look at Xfce is your looking to go lighter but willing to sacrifice UI. _________________ Everything Cloud, infrastructure, monitoring, scaling. |
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CaptainBlood Advocate
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 3595
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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ShaneCar wrote: | I would take a look at Gnome 3 as a potential alternative to LXDE. Gnome is lightweight, has great UI and very intuitive. Gnome also has very simple command lines. You may also want to look at Xfce is your looking to go lighter but willing to sacrifice UI. |
Laptop here gives Code: | free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8052104 243744 7808360 41140 3084 108404
-/+ buffers/cache: 132256 7919848
Swap: 8048528 0 8048528 | with all required kernel features core included (almost no modules), LXDE started session and WIFI/NetworkManager activated.
Just wondering what your numbers under GNOME are?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora-23-desktops&num=1 may be somehow interesting regarding GUI selection omong common ones.
Here LXDE LXTERMINAL sometimes loses carriage return management after some manual Ctrl C.
Since the whole system is compiled with some quite bleeding edge param such as LTO, GRAPHITE & OPENMP by default, it is hard to tell where the error comes from.
Thks 4 ur attention. |
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v_andal Guru
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 541 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:09 am Post subject: |
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CaptainBlood wrote: |
Laptop here gives Code: | free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8052104 243744 7808360 41140 3084 108404
-/+ buffers/cache: 132256 7919848
Swap: 8048528 0 8048528 | with all required kernel features core included (almost no modules), LXDE started session and WIFI/NetworkManager activated.
Just wondering what your numbers under GNOME are?
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The output of free does not mean anything. For example here's my
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total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 12101248 11429384 671864 110216 12 10197668
-/+ buffers/cache: 1231704 10869544
Swap: 524284 13184 511100
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And I don't use any desktop environment, only Sawfish WM. The trick is simple, I have
Code: | │none /var/tmp/portage tmpfs |
in my /etc/fstab.
As to terminal emulator, I use x11-terms/rxvt-unicode. So far this is the only one that doesn't have glitches even if I input international characters. Plus it allows use of any font that I like. BTW, the "command lines" have nothing to do with terminal emulator. Here available features are defined by shell and not by terminal emulator. |
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fourth n00b
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 48
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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For the system as a total, my LXDE system as measured within the LX provided task manager on a freshly installed system was 140mb(ish). Last time I checked it's now at 200mb, for the whole system. This includes samba, wine, alsa, wireless, desktop bitmap, etc... I'm not experienced enough with the OS yet to look over the task list and find fat to cull, but even with this 7yo dell e4300 200mb of 4gb is good enough.
I generally use the absolute most lightweight way of doing this, either on a desktop or in my c++. I like fast snappy interfaces, and the less data flowing over the buses and less interaction between software the slicker it'll run. As mention in my intro post I'm an old school MCSE(since NT 3.51) who finally got sick of MS's treatment. I ran Windows 2000 until 2007 and only upgraded when I wanted wireless. I dropped xp to get access to some app that only worked on 7, but when W10 spyware patches were pushed on to my system I had enough. Before settling on lx I tried Enlightenment, xfce, flux, blackbox...
For Me, LXDE reminds me a lot of the W2000 system I felt most productive on. small lightweight snappy.
I'm just wanting to be able to do basic things like cut some text off a console (like an error message) and paste it in to a search page. the LXterminal tip above did work, but I found out a day later that it only worked within the terminal. I could not just select some text, and CTRL-V outside that terminal. So I'm still hunting for something better.
Yes, I'm moving to LXQt... once I can work out how to get polkit to not die in the middle of it's compile or for lxqt-meta to not require pulling in ~x86 packages... (I have enough bugs to sort out already. )
I guess I could just install them all and --unmerge each one when I find it doesn't serve my purposes:
https://packages.gentoo.org/categories/x11-terms |
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eccerr0r Watchman
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 9677 Location: almost Mile High in the USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I had an old Digital VT-100 once. It's got a regular RS-232 port and a white on black CRT. It could even do double wide/high text.
Alas I don't like that terminal as it's way too big and heavy.
The Digital VT-220 is much smaller and more convenient. But I'd miss out on the white on black text, I never liked those green monochrome screens.
Oh...sorry, we were talking about terminal emulators... Drat. _________________ Intel Core i7 2700K/Radeon R7 250/24GB DDR3/256GB SSD
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keet Guru
Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 568
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I really like terminal G22 at the Atlanta airport. Wait, does that actually exist?
Ok, I like Sakura. It's lightweight and it has tabs, along with easy font and size selection. |
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eccerr0r Watchman
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 9677 Location: almost Mile High in the USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:42 am Post subject: |
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keet wrote: | I really like terminal G22 at the Atlanta airport. Wait, does that actually exist?
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I can't choose, I need both on my batteries. _________________ Intel Core i7 2700K/Radeon R7 250/24GB DDR3/256GB SSD
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cboldt Veteran
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1046
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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If you want Ctl-V to do paste, make a LXDE key binding to do that.
I don't know exactly how to do it, but a quick review using a search engine shows a few pages of how to make LXDE key bindings. The reason I am unable to quickly provide cookie-cutter instructions is that I run FVWM for a desk manager.
There is loads of power under the X-windows hood, and many packages that facilitate transfer of data (select/copy/paste like activities) between applications. I won't say that a solution is trivial, but if you like LXDE, you shouldn't search for an alternative WM/DM just to get Ctl-V paste funciton. |
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