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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

done.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/USB_mobile_broadband_modem

Just do not know how to open new topic in Wiki.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gttg,

Thank you. It looks OK to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to make a very big article in Wiki, related:
Complete guide on installation Gentoo on SSD.
It will go from making file system btrfs to SSD, configure btrfs to work better for SSD, be failsafe.
Then will bring an exmaple to make a snapshot.
Then will go till end of installation of Cinnamon, including process of placing USE flags in files for each program etc.
How to compile in RAM (tmpfs).
Setup of Zram. and move all swap to Zram. Because btrfs does not like SWAP-like activity, so better to keep all swap in Zram.
Complete guide for newbees. But as a result they will have very stable and powerful setup.

I have 4 aims for that
1) just do not forget all steps and any time get refreshed version of it
2) I have some difficulties with some points. Hope more experienced users will add and fix. For example, I do not know how to setup Grub2 to work as I want it to work? May be someone will add his/her knowledge and improve it.
3) there will be some function, and if we can automate it, would be cool. Someone, may be, will write a program with GUI for that. Something like "Time Machine" - and we never have problems with upgrades fails, always will have no problems with it.
4) I want to make a LiveCD version of my current Gentoo setup and place the ISO file in boot. Add data to Grub2 to have this as a reserve setup in case is is down. So, I can boot from that ISO and fix system.
Gentoo can become very interesting setup with btrfs - just as a case.
This idea is universal and can be used for every OS. But best of all it fits for Gentoo.
But, in general, that article will be newbee firendly, so everyone can make own Gentoo setup.

This idea is not mine. When I asked for help on one forum, one experienced Gentoo user gave me this advice. But, definitely, this idea worth to be shared with all.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gttg,

It looks like you are trying to eat an elephant. That's best done one plateful at a time :)

What you are proposing is best presented as a series of linked wiki pages.
That way you don't have to write it all in one go.

Its OK to create a page with links to pages that read "to be addd later".
That way you present the structure and others can contribute the pages you mark as "to be addd later."
The alternative is to develop the pages under your username and move the finished article when you have it complete.
That bprings us back to the elephant. Its a lot of work.

Another tip. Draw on existing wiki pages where you can. e.g. the handbook.

This example could be reduced considreably by pointing to other wiki pages.
However it started life as a GuideXML document in my dev space.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definetly not.
When I will post it, You will see - it is not part-by-part usable. It can be usable as a whole - system.
When You cut off some parts, system will loose integrity and newbies can not make successful install.

As You see, i had problems with KDE and saw no reason to fight with them. Simply, made an install of Cinanmon instead of changing form KDE to Cinnamon etc. To be honest, personally I find Cinnamon better rather KDE. More ergonomic for me.

The whole installation took some time because of compiling. But in general - nothing difficult to make a guide for that.
Also, I've read that to compile Firefox and Libreoffice - we need tonns of RAM. For sure, it is not true.
I am compiling only in RAM and SWAP is in Zram only.
So, I compiled Firefox for 25 minutes and it barely consumed more than 2.7-3Gb of RAM and newer used swap.
Libreoffice was compiling for 127 minutes, and it used 6Gb RAM (in fstab the tmpfs for /var/tmp was made 6Gb as the Libreoffice asked before emerge). It used once Zram, when fully went into RAM and consumed 6.1GB of RAM, then I saw how it throws 950Mb data into Swap (as swap is using lz4 compression, then may be it was not less than 2Gb data. The whole size of swap is 4*512Mb = 2Gb. One zram-disk per physical core of CPU. Totally I have 8Gb of RAM. Will go to 16Gb soon). That is all.
So, all can compile that programms inside of a RAM without big issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gttg,

I understand its not part by part usable.

My point was that once the skeleton is in place, you can fill out the parts as time allows.
Others may contribute too.

It can start out as a guide for those who only need a list of steps to follow, then its will become more beginner friendly as you add detail.

The wiki is used by users of all abilities and not just Gentoo users either.
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