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arnvidr
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Why?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Debian dropping the LSB |
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| gwr wrote: | | I find this rather shocking. |
gwr ... it makes sense though, first they drop LSD, then they drop LSB ... LSA is probably next in the firing line, and I imagine LSC is feeling somewhat passed over ;)
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To make things complicated.
Nothing worse as a linux distro which do not follow rules.
Sadly as linux mint, ubuntu are based on debian the things will get worse.
I can not claim that these distros were easy to tweak anyway but now they will get much more worse. |
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| tw04l124 wrote: | | Nothing worse as a linux distro which do not follow rules. |
tw04l124 ... what rules though? If you're freedesktop.org you can define such "specifications" and people will link to them (as seen in the above LWN article) as though this is somehow a "standard". A lot of lip-service is paid to "standards" but it involves a lot of fingers crossed behind backs.
| Linus Torvalds wrote: | | First off, I'd suggest printing out a copy of the GNU coding standards, and NOT read it. Burn them, it's a great symbolic gesture. |
... so, who's defining the "standard"?
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I was under the impression Gentoo is not completely LSB compliant either: Gentoo not LSB compliant?
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This might not be so doom and gloom. The LSB covers a lot of things like ... using RPS's for package management & specific package versions
The FileSystem Hierarchy and ABI are quite important to ensure all linux distro's are in essence interoperable
As long as debian sticks to the FSH and the ABI and makes some key packages available ... meh.
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roki942
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I found this part of the tread interesting and it's from 2004 | Quote: |
OTH, I doubt that the present generation of binary distros (even 100%
LSB-compliant) will get very far with "enable [ing] software
applications to run on any compliant system." because of the inherent
problem of matching up different levels of binary libraries (RPM hell
in all its glory).
IMO, the system structure of Gentoo is better than the LSB which seems
to have been designed (as I see it) to institutionalize the RedHat
system structure.
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Abraxas
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:19 pm Post subject: No need to worry about it |
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You can still make it compliant. They are just not going to go through all the time created standard symlinks and such for things that are not even installed. What has the LSB really done for Linux anyway? It seemed like a good idea at the time but i'm not sure it has been very helpful.
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