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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:14 pm    Post subject: Why are some applications so large? Reply with quote

I'm running KDE Plasma 5.

Some non-qt applications are really huge/zoomed in.
Specifically Google Chrome.

I had to change the default font size to 75% just to make it look normal.
http://gentoo.awalp.net/size.jpg
Here is an example of this. (Font size @ 75%)
-- You can imagine how large website fonts are at 100% (they seem like 150%).


Is there a setting to reduce google-chrome (stable) down to a 'normal' size?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fonts have different scale, if you use font X at 12 size, 12 may look huge or tiny with font Y.
now if you set font X with a 12 size, and let's say kde cannot use font X, it may backup to another font it could use, and boom, it now use font Y, but still at 12 size.

You should look at font settings (for gtk app if get it right ; sorry never really use kde/qt myself).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awalp,

They aren't really. Consider the following ...
a) Every program contains at least one bug.
b) Every program can be shortened by a single instruction.
By repeated application of a) and b) it can be seen that any program can be reduced to a single instruction, which is incorrect.

Its just that nobody has put the effort ito making the programs smaller :)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody can agree where to put screen DPI settings. Some things use xrandr, some use .Xresources, some use xorg.conf, some use fontconfig, some use their own proprietary config file, some get it from the screen EDID, and sometimes the EDID is garbage.

Your best option is to put a DisplaySize line in xorg.conf to make it think it's 100dpi and hope everything obeys it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what I really mean by really big....
http://gentoo.awalp.net/size2.jpg

This is the default size of google chrome.

I mean, common, this size cannot be normal.
I'm running my screen at 1920x1080, but it feels like 1024x768.


Where and how do I configure DPI/percentage scaling, etc for application size?

There has to be some kind of accessibility option for the visually impaired (like in Windows setting the DPI to 125% etc.,)
I would expect there be some opposite of that on linux.

I've never had this issue, any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
awalp,

They aren't really. Consider the following ...
a) Every program contains at least one bug.
b) Every program can be shortened by a single instruction.
By repeated application of a) and b) it can be seen that any program can be reduced to a single instruction, which is incorrect.

Its just that nobody has put the effort ito making the programs smaller :)


Neither a nor b is universally true. Also shortening the program may remove the single bug.

awalp wrote:
Here is what I really mean by really big....
http://gentoo.awalp.net/size2.jpg

This is the default size of google chrome.

I mean, common, this size cannot be normal.
I'm running my screen at 1920x1080, but it feels like 1024x768.


Looks normal to me. You must have eagle eyes. Can you actually surf the web on a cell phone?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( s/common/come on/ )

Honestly, your Chrome fonts don't look so outrageously big to me, at least compared to the other stuff. What font and font size do you use in Konsole, for comparison?

I've fixed my font size issues with this /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-monitor.conf :
Code:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier "<default monitor>"

        # 1920 x 1080
        # DisplaySize in mm

        # default = 96 dpi
        #DisplaySize 508 285

        # real = 158 dpi
        # as given by xrandr:
        #DisplaySize 309 173

        # 100 dpi = 487.68 274.32
        #DisplaySize 488 274

        # 120 dpi = 406.4 228.6
        DisplaySize 407 229

EndSection


There are some online calculators to convert from dpi to size, if you don't want to do them by "hand".
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