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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Chrome switched from Pepperflash to Adobe Flash? Reply with quote

I just noticed that chromium is running adobe-flash instead of pepperflash. Does anyone know what happened there? It looks like Adobe officially supports the latest version of flash on chrome browsers now:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else surprised about this?
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what you mean unless I misunderstand? It still seems to be pepper flash for the new versions still just as it has been for a year or more.

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Linux Mozilla, Firefox - NPAPI (Extended Support Release) 11.2.202.460
Chrome (embedded), Chromium-based browsers - PPAPI 17.0.0.188


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
Not sure about Chrome, Chromium here uses pepperflash. chrome://plugins/


I'm using Google Chrome Version 43.0.2357.81 (64-bit) as a second browser and here is what it states I have:

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Adobe Flash Player - Version: 17.0.0.188
Shockwave Flash 17.0 r0
Name: Shockwave Flash
Description: Shockwave Flash 17.0 r0
Version: 17.0.0.188
Location: /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
Type: PPAPI (out-of-process)

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you right-click on the version information here:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Does it mention Adobe Flash?
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant123 wrote:
When you right-click on the version information here:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Does it mention Adobe Flash?

Yes.

Firefox 38.0.1 (from portage, compiled from source)) - "You have version 11,2,202,460 installed"

Google Chrome Version 43.0.2357.81 (64-bit) (binary from portage) - "You have version 17,0,0,188 installed"

Do you get something different?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some error with firefox, the latest adobe flash player work fine, but same time little laggy.

Can I use Pepperflash instead of Adobe Flash plugin? And what is the different between us?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use freshplayerplugin to run Pepperflash in firefox. This way I can view fullscreen flash videos on my second monitor while working in my first monitor. Old Adobe Flash would not run fullscreen flash video in an unfocused firefox window.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidm wrote:
grant123 wrote:
When you right-click on the version information here:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Does it mention Adobe Flash?

Yes.

Firefox 38.0.1 (from portage, compiled from source)) - "You have version 11,2,202,460 installed"

Google Chrome Version 43.0.2357.81 (64-bit) (binary from portage) - "You have version 17,0,0,188 installed"

Do you get something different?


I get the same, but I thought Chrome was supposed to use Adobe instead of Pepperflash?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stephan-t wrote:
I have some error with firefox, the latest adobe flash player work fine, but same time little laggy.

Can I use Pepperflash instead of Adobe Flash plugin? And what is the different between us?

Its laggy because its old --> adobe stopped supporting Linux after version 11.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Chrome (and Chromium) has always used Adobe Flash Player, and that Pepper is just another plugin A.P.I., like ActiveX or the Netscape Plugin A.P.I.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-google-chrome.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. This wiki article explains well how to use the last PPAPI version of Adobe Flash plugin in Firefox.
By installing Google Chrome (Adobe Flash player plugin embeded) then freshplayerplugin ("bridge" from PPAPI to NPAPI?).
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash
Adobe Flash player may have always been used in browsers, but with different APIs (PPAPI, NPAPI...), as keet said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I had a good understanding of this but maybe not. I thought pepperflash was an alternative to Adobe Flash, but you're saying it's complementary? The second and third sentences here seem to be in line with my understanding but it isn't totally clear:

https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that this debian wiki article can make a little confusion.
From my understanding, Adobe has stopped development of the Linux Flash Player plugin for a while and only brings security fixes.
Google still maintains the actual newer versions of the plugin but packaged in the pepper API (PPAPI), suitable for the Chrome browser. I think it is Adobe Flash inside. But it is not suitable for Netscape API (Mozilla Firefox...), NPAPI. That's why this browser should stick to the old and not developed anymore Flash plugin in NPAPI.

But fortunetly, some brilliant people have started taking the PPAPI version by Google which is up-to-date, to make it usable in NPAPI browsers. That's the aim of freshplayerplugin, "grabbing" the pepper flash plugin from Google Chrome. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So pepperflash was never a flash decoder/renderer, just an API layer?

When I was working on getting hardware acceleration of flash working, I was unable to do it with Chrome's flash due to pepperflash, so I guess that's not a decoder/renderer issue but an API (NPAPI vs PPAPI) issue?
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