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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Does one change profiles from time to time say for KDE inst? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm a bit new again to Gentoo...first install really in most part of a decade.

I have OS installed.
I have Xorg installed.

I'm now getting ready to try to install KDE.

Reading on the document, it recommends a KDE profile.

I know I need to read through very thoroughly the whole documentation set for Portage and about profiles, etc....they weren't as big a deal really back when I did Gentoo.

This is what I currently have set for my profile:

Code:
# eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/13.0
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd
  [8]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/developer
  [9]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib *
  [10]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/x32
  [11]  hardened/linux/amd64
  [12]  hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
  [13]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
  [14]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
  [15]  hardened/linux/amd64/x32
  [16]  hardened/linux/musl/amd64
  [17]  default/linux/uclibc/amd64
  [18]  hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64


I guess my question is, and just need this briefly for the KDE install. Does one usually pick a profile and stick with it pretty much forever going forward, or is a profile something to be set depending on your usage that day, like for a KDE install, would I change to the #6 profile, do the install..and change it back, or leave it there...or what?

I'm just a bit confused on the profile thing.

I do fully intend to read through all the documents on portage and profiles, but I kinda quickly need to get KDE installed and start working on a project I have....and would like to get that at least installed and once settled, go back and read all the documents that Gentoo has for me now.

Thanks in advance!!

cayenne
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you don't change it often, but changing the profile isn't something that causes a lot of harm, just a lot of rebuilds. These will be automatically done with a normal --newuse emerge of @world.

In fact, my normal modus operandi for a new install is to
  • Start off with a non-GUI profile, like default/linux/*/13.0.
  • Get my system bootable, stable, and up-to-date.
  • Change my profile to default/linux/*/13.0/desktop and then follow the X installation guide.
  • Change my profile again to default/linux/*/13.0/desktop/kde and then follow the KDE installation guide.
Regardless of how you get there, default/linux/*/13.0/desktop/kde is where you should normally end up if you're a KDE user (if you're not using systemd).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With no-multilib you have to carry on and add USE flags as needed, I do not see no-multilib KDE profile as available.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:33 am    Post subject: Thank you!! Reply with quote

John R. Graham wrote:
Well, you don't change it often, but changing the profile isn't something that causes a lot of harm, just a lot of rebuilds. These will be automatically done with a normal --newuse emerge of @world.

In fact, my normal modus operandi for a new install is to
  • Start off with a non-GUI profile, like default/linux/*/13.0.
  • Get my system bootable, stable, and up-to-date.
  • Change my profile to default/linux/*/13.0/desktop and then follow the X installation guide.
  • Change my profile again to default/linux/*/13.0/desktop/kde and then follow the KDE installation guide.
Regardless of how you get there, default/linux/*/13.0/desktop/kde is where you should normally end up if you're a KDE user (if you're not using systemd).

- John


Ok..hey THANK YOU all!!

That clears up a bit of philosophy with the profiles I didn't quite get from just my reading so far.

Very much appreciated!!

cayenne
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing to be careful on, as Jaglover hinted, trying to switch away from no-multilib profile will usually cause a lot of issues for you. This is specifically for that profile only, in that the no-multilib profile is NOT compatible with other profiles. This is one of the rare times that reinstalling is easier than fixing otherwise, but it is possible (involving a lot of work on your part).

I would suspect, the x32 profile is another profile that is not compatible on switching away from (but can't say for sure, as I haven't seen any posts about that one yet).

Personaly, I think there should be a big disclaimer on using that profile, due to the amount of trouble everyone has when trying to switch away form that profile.
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