mpv and dependency on mplayer

init3 · n00b Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Posts: 21

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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8936

There is no virtual/mplayer, so mpv can not satisfy it. You would need to find out what package is depending on media-video/mplayer, see if it could alternatively work with mpv (it might just need a rebuild to accept it) or remove it in case you don't need it.

yngwin · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:54 pm Post subject:

mpv is not a drop-in replacement for mplayer. It does cover most of the same functionality, since it is a fork of mplayer after all. But the architecture has changed quite a bit, and a number of the commandline options have changed.

What do you use that depends on mplayer?
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init3 · n00b Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Posts: 21

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

virtual/ffmpeg is not a hard dependency on media-video/ffmpeg

all the virtual is doing, is allowing either ffmpeg or libav (though I suspect that virtual may be soon on it's way out the door)

Naib · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject:

gcyoung · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:29 am Post subject:

It seems the ffmpeg v libav controversy has now mucked up mpv. I had religiously converted all to libav, on being informed that it was to be the default, and dropped mplayer,smplayer,mencoder,etc. in favour of mpv, which I found to be a great improvement, even if it had no frontend.

I now find the favourite is to be ffmpeg. On the latest "sync", I find that mpv requires a version of ffmpeg which will block libav. It's all a bit beyond my limited understanding! The only way I could get a resolved update of my system was to remove mpv.

I'm all for choice, but it seems in this instance it has only led to confusion.

Naib · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:40 am Post subject:

gcyoung · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:08 pm Post subject:

Where did I hear that libav was to be the great new media library?

Gentoo news has stated that both libav and ffmpeg would be possible. Apparently not. So now it's a fresh install back to ffmpeg.

Naib · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:38 pm Post subject:

Any statement that libav is the greatest was purely propaganda (and those responsible should be held accountable)

Where did you hear that they could coexist? The Gentoo news was very explicit that they couldn't

You do not need a re-install to straightened this mess out. Just correct the USE flags, emerge a few things and bam
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ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

It was a while back in that libav was going to be the new media library when ffmpeg appeared to be dieing off. However, ffmpeg became more active not too long after libav started (libav was a branch off of ffmpeg, but refuses to stop using the namespace ffmpeg has been using since the start). You can use either libav or ffmpeg, nothing has changed ever on that account. You have never been able to use both at the same time because they are using the same namespace, and until that stops happening you won't be able to use both at the same time either.

gcyoung · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:37 pm Post subject:

for the benifit of Naib above, I quote:

"Since the choice between ffmpeg and libav has been made more
explicit, there has been a lot of discussion about what the
default implementation should be. It can be concluded that
media-video/ffmpeg has wider support, and would be somewhat
more convenient for most end-users.

For this reason the default implementation has been switched
back from media-video/libav to media-video/ffmpeg by removing
the libav useflag from the base profile.

If the libav useflag is already globally enabled or disabled
in /etc/portage/make.conf, then no further action is required.

Users who implicitly relied on libav being enabled in their
profile, and who wish to continue using libav, should enable
USE=libav in their /etc/portage/make.conf file."

This is a relatively recent message. I could not get rid of ffmpeg. I followed the final paragraph and received apparently ublockable blockers to my mongrelised system on my next update. However, with the suggestion given above, removing libav and installing ffmpeg has proved simpler than I anticipated, so I shall stick to that.

Naib · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:40 pm Post subject:

and the reason is libav is a trainwreck and should never have been made the default (actively so) let alone the propaganda spun by gentoo dev's around the topic (within libav as well).

read this entire thread ( https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010096.html ) It was also only 18threads down from this one and for quite some time top of this section.
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yngwin · Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:11 am Post subject:

gcyoung · Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:49 am Post subject:

I have looked at the threads referred to above and it seems I have stepped unwittingly into a war! As a simple computer user, rather than a developer, I think I'll keep out of this argument, other than state it might have been better to take tha poll before, rather than after, the default was first set.

steveL · Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: