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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject: I've ruined my Xorg-server Reply with quote

so I've tried to remove xorg-server \ X11 + LXDE
I did:
root# emerge --unmerge xorg-server

and I deleted a few folders and files in the / that was connected to the name "X11" (+I thing I deleted something that called X11RB or something like that)

now, after this I tried to install again xorg-server so I did:
emerge xorg-server

and:
emerge dwm
emerge dmenu

now this is what I get:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/34srvba.jpg
and:
http://oi60.tinypic.com/e7gqig.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

Welcome to Gentoo.

We need the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, as your piccies suggest.
wgetpaste is your friend.

X11RB -> X11R8 .. its all you X stuff
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

Welcome to Gentoo.

We need the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, as your piccies suggest.
wgetpaste is your friend.

X11RB -> X11R8 .. its all you X stuff


Hey, thank you for helping me and sorry im doing this with pictures(I have 2 computers so I go to the second one ) :
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2ng8swy.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/117xkdf.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/23h2b0i.jpg
http://oi59.tinypic.com/mwfsq0.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zp17bp.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/9tze3t.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/whd6yo.jpg
http://oi61.tinypic.com/2hdcx94.jpgv
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

it really is much easier with wgetpaste.wgetpaste is a tool for putting files onto the web.
It gives you a URL which you post here.
wgetpaste can alos put command outputs on the web.

Your error, at the moment, in that glx is missing.
Further down you hawe a warning that the ati video driver is missing.

One thing at a time. glx is provided by mesa which you should have. I expect that it was in /X11R8/, which you deteted.
So, install mesa and wgetpaste
You need mesa and we are going to need wgetpaste.

With mesa and wgetpaste installed, I sure X will still fail but post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

it really is much easier with wgetpaste.wgetpaste is a tool for putting files onto the web.
It gives you a URL which you post here.
wgetpaste can alos put command outputs on the web.

Your error, at the moment, in that glx is missing.
Further down you hawe a warning that the ati video driver is missing.

One thing at a time. glx is provided by mesa which you should have. I expect that it was in /X11R8/, which you deteted.
So, install mesa and wgetpaste
You need mesa and we are going to need wgetpaste.

With mesa and wgetpaste installed, I sure X will still fail but post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log


oh thabk you
I didn't know about that tool :D
https://bpaste.net/show/c8aedecb9f3f
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

That's better, now I can copy/paste interesting bits from the pastebin. That helps, me to help you and and follow up readers with similar problems.
Now you have glx but this snippit from your log shows all youl Xorg video drivers are missing.
Code:
[  8265.830] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati
[  8265.830] (II) UnloadModule: "ati"
[  8265.830] (II) Unloading ati
[  8265.830] (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.830] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading modesetting
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading fbdev
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading vesa
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (EE) No drivers available.
[  8265.831] (EE)

The list is all of the open source drivers that will work with your video card. We need to know which one(s) you really wanted to install, if any.
Code:
emerge --info
will show that.
Again, wgetpaste is your friend.
Actually, I only neeh the VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES from make .conf but I hate working through a keyhole, so you may as well post emerge --info now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

That's better, now I can copy/paste interesting bits from the pastebin. That helps, me to help you and and follow up readers with similar problems.
Now you have glx but this snippit from your log shows all youl Xorg video drivers are missing.
Code:
[  8265.830] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati
[  8265.830] (II) UnloadModule: "ati"
[  8265.830] (II) Unloading ati
[  8265.830] (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.830] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading modesetting
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading fbdev
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[  8265.831] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[  8265.831] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[  8265.831] (II) Unloading vesa
[  8265.831] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[  8265.831] (EE) No drivers available.
[  8265.831] (EE)

The list is all of the open source drivers that will work with your video card. We need to know which one(s) you really wanted to install, if any.
Code:
emerge --info
will show that.
Again, wgetpaste is your friend.
Actually, I only neeh the VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES from make .conf but I hate working through a keyhole, so you may as well post emerge --info now.


how do I wgetpaste the emerge --info ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to rely on yourself to be successful in Gentoo:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how%20to%20use%20wgetpaste
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

You could read the man page, or use the -h option.
Code:
emerge --info | wgetpaste

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

You could read the man page, or use the -h option.
Code:
emerge --info | wgetpaste


yeah sorry about that, I should use duckduckgo more

https://bpaste.net/show/683523639ddf
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

Code:
VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev glint intel mach64 mga nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via vmware dummy v4l"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"


INPUT_DEVICES is OK
VIDEO_CARDS is a bit excessive unless you have several video cards installed.
Most of those video chips were used in 286 PCs.

VIDEO_CARDS ="ati vesa" is all you need and vesa is a fallback. vmware is for use only inside a vmware virtual machine.

Fix your video cards and run
Code:
emerge -1 xf86-input-evdev xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-ati


Now what does the log say?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"

It is harmless but still excessive. It is either "keyboard mouse" or "evdev", not all of them.

You want to keep your Gentoo clean, don't you?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

Code:
VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev glint intel mach64 mga nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via vmware dummy v4l"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"


INPUT_DEVICES is OK
VIDEO_CARDS is a bit excessive unless you have several video cards installed.
Most of those video chips were used in 286 PCs.

VIDEO_CARDS ="ati vesa" is all you need and vesa is a fallback. vmware is for use only inside a vmware virtual machine.

Fix your video cards and run
Code:
emerge -1 xf86-input-evdev xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-ati


Now what does the log say?


Wait, where I need to write VIDEO_CARDS ="ati vesa" ? in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? I need to replace this : VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev glint intel mach64 mga nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via vmware dummy v4l" with this:
VIDEO_CARDS ="ati vesa" ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

Edit the VIDEO_CARDS= in make.conf, unless your really need support for all those cards.
From your Xorg.0.log file, ati is the best driver for your video card, so that needs to be there.
vesa is a slow but safe fallback that is good to have around in case thare are problems with ati.

Jaglover is correct about the INPUT_DEVICES too, you probably only need evdev
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

Edit the VIDEO_CARDS= in make.conf, unless your really need support for all those cards.
From your Xorg.0.log file, ati is the best driver for your video card, so that needs to be there.
vesa is a slow but safe fallback that is good to have around in case thare are problems with ati.

Jaglover is correct about the INPUT_DEVICES too, you probably only need evdev


where is make.conf ? or should I create one ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

Its at /etc/portage/make.conf
You edited it when you installed originally.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

Its at /etc/portage/make.conf
You edited it when you installed originally.

Thank you ! now when I do startx its launch it ! (But only one terminal is up, in the first time I had 3 terminals, is that weird ?)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSqueal,

Please post the log again, so we can see if its using the best driver.
I am not familiar with your window manager to know what to expect.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
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Please post the log again, so we can see if its using the best driver.
I am not familiar with your window manager to know what to expect.


the log = emerge --info ?
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xSqueal,

The log is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

The log is /var/log/Xorg.0.log


https://bpaste.net/show/202dbeb7c8f8

and again, thank you for your time and help
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say this worked before, and all you did was remove xorg-server and some packages that sit on top of that?

Your listing makes it look almost as if your kernel isn't configured properly.

Can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or any stuff from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* , and maybe your kernel config?
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xSqueal,

Code:
[   145.299] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[   145.299] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.


Its not working with the best open source driver for your chipset. Still, as ati was not in your VIDEO_CARDS before today, it wasn,t using the ati driver.
The extract of the log above hints that you don't have ATI Radeon support in your kernel, as depontius is suggesting.
Meanwhile, you are using the old slow vesa driver.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depontius wrote:
You say this worked before, and all you did was remove xorg-server and some packages that sit on top of that?

Your listing makes it look almost as if your kernel isn't configured properly.

Can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or any stuff from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* , and maybe your kernel config?

When I do:
Code:
 wgetpaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf

its says:
Code:
 No input read. Nothing to past. Aborting 


NeddySeagoon wrote:
xSqueal,

Code:
[   145.299] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[   145.299] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.


Its not working with the best open source driver for your chipset. Still, as ati was not in your VIDEO_CARDS before today, it wasn,t using the ati driver.
The extract of the log above hints that you don't have ATI Radeon support in your kernel, as depontius is suggesting.
Meanwhile, you are using the old slow vesa driver.


So what I need to do ?
my kernel:
3.18.7-gentoo
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To simply make anything work at all, try temporarily leaving only "vesa" for VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf, and rebuild xorg-server.

Beyond that, I would suggest correctly configuring a kernel for the "radeon" driver, and once you've got that, put it back into /etc/make.conf. I believe that there is stuff in the Wiki about how to configure a kernel for radeon.
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