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decuser
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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:26 pm Post subject: Where's the desktop? |
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I just finished a marathon install session on my T430. I selected the profile:
[5] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable)
I rebooted and network's working, everything seems cool, but startx "command not found" and I can't seem to locate anything to fire up the desktop.
emerge --depclean shows:
Packages installed: 551
Packages in world: 16
Packages in system: 49
Required packages: 551
Number removed: 0
Is there another way to show this information? Where's my "desktop"?
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alamahant
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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What desktop have you installed?
It seems to me you are missing
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x11-base/xorg-server
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which in turn pulls
x11-apps/xinit
where "startx" command belongs.
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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decuser,
In a previous post you --depcleaned a lot of GUI packages.
You need to install xorg-server and the desktop of your choice.
The desktop profile does not provide a working desktop, only the bits that every Xorg based desktop will need.
Be aware that xorg-server is not pulled in by any desktop. Its required to display the GUI. If you will mill run the Xorg applications on one system and display them on another, only the system doing the displaying needs xorg-server. That arrangement is not as common as it once was.
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logrusx
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Where's the desktop? |
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| decuser wrote: | I just finished a marathon install session on my T430. I selected the profile:
[5] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable)
I rebooted and network's working, everything seems cool, but startx "command not found" and I can't seem to locate anything to fire up the desktop.
Is there another way to show this information? Where's my "desktop"?
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[6] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome (stable)
[7] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd (stable)
[8] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr (stable) *
[9] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma (stable)
[10] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd (stable)
[11] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr (stable)
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If you're not satisfied with one of those provided, it's your responsibility to setup your graphic environment the way you like it. Here's a wiki page with most of the desktop environments provided by Gentoo. Here's another with window managers. That should be enough to get you started.
Here are Xorg and Wayland pages you might find useful. Maybe take a look at them before reading the above mentioned ones.
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decuser
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | decuser,
In a previous post you --depcleaned a lot of GUI packages.
You need to install xorg-server and the desktop of your choice.
The desktop profile does not provide a working desktop, only the bits that every Xorg based desktop will need.
Be aware that xorg-server is not pulled in by any desktop. Its required to display the GUI. If you will mill run the Xorg applications on one system and display them on another, only the system doing the displaying needs xorg-server. That arrangement is not as common as it once was. |
This is a different install. I get it now, thanks for the detail.
Is it better to change profiles at this point or just emerge packages? I’m still exploring so I can do either. |
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alamahant
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Is it better to change profiles at this point or just emerge packages? I’m still exploring so I can do either.
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You should change profile only if you plan on plasma or gnome.
If not plz stick with the generic desktop and emerge xorg-server and your DE of your choice.
Even if you prefer plasma or gnome you will still need to emerge them explicitly plus the xorg-server.
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decuser
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Where's the desktop? |
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| logrusx wrote: | If you're not satisfied with one of those provided, it's your responsibility to setup your graphic environment the way you like it. Here's a wiki page with most of the desktop environments provided by Gentoo. Here's another with window managers. That should be enough to get you started.
Here are Xorg and Wayland pages you might find useful. Maybe take a look at them before reading the above mentioned ones.
Best Regards,
Georgi |
This is helpful. Thanks. I just thought desktop meant “default” desktop. I get it now. On my other laptop, I just installed Xorg and ctwm and it worked great. This laptop’s capable of running more, so I’ll give xfce a shot. |
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decuser
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Is it better to change profiles at this point or just emerge packages? I’m still exploring so I can do either.
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You should change profile only if you plan on plasma or gnome.
If not plz stick with the generic desktop and emerge xorg-server and your DE of your choice.
Even if you prefer plasma or gnome you will still need to emerge them explicitly plus the xorg-server. |
Nice. I’ll give it a shot! Xfce here we come. |
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NeddySeagoon
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decuser,
Your profile is a useful starting point for settings. You are expected to fine tune it in /etc/portage/* to get your install the way you like it. its possible to add or remove things.
Auditioning profiles is safe.
Set a profile, run emerge --info to see what it does.
Rinse and repeat for as many profiles as you like.
Once upon a time, there was only one stage3 per arch. Today we have several. To make best use of Gentoo provided binaries in the stage3, use a matching stage3 and profile.
The profile and stage3 are useful defaults, that's all.
Getting from where you are now to where you want to be is a matter of settings and CPU time. Thats generally true.
There are one or two things that force a reinstall.
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