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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 pm    Post subject: Any Old Distfiles ? Reply with quote

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Following on from How was it using Gentoo in the early 2000s? I was trying to resurrect an old system to get some data off its hard drives.
That failed as it looks like the PSU failure it suffered damaged the motherboard. The hard drives survived and I got my data.

There is some history on the Wiki.

To cut a long story short, I came across my original Gentoo liveCD, so I just had to take it for a spin in Virtualbox.
I've got a stage 1, a contemporary portage snapshot and am on my way to stage2 but I have some source files missing.

In build order they are
Code:
net-tools-1.60-gentoo-extra.tar.bz2
pam-login-3.10.tar.bz2
util-linux-2.11y-crypt-gentoo.patch.gz (Only with USE=crypt


Successes so far:
sash-3.x-readline.diff.gz
wget-new-percentage/wnp-20011208-2.diff
debianutils-1.16.7.tar.gz
m4_1.4-15.diff.gz
pam-0.75-r11-gentoo.tbz
hdparm-5.3.tar.gz
cracklib,2.7.tar.gz  (I have it but portage claims the digests don't match)
pwdb-0.61.tar.gz
bin86-0.16.0.tar.bz
procps-2.0.10.tar.bz2
shadow-4.0.3.tar.gz
man-pages-1.56.tar.bz2
tcp-wrappers-7.6-r4-gentoo.tar.bz2


sash just built and I have no idea why.
cracklib was a senior moment. I just needed to delete the distfilet


I've searched The Debian archives and RedHat 6, 7 8 and 9 SRPMS.

If anyone has any distfiles from about 2003 in that list, please contribute.
I don't intend to give up looking. Fedora is next on my list to search.

I've managed to install grub and a non booting kernel too. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I had other plans for the evening, but oh man, you helped me so many times I couldn't resist.
Here the few things I was able to find, or I tried to.

I don't know if the checksum match, this shadow is dated 2004:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/repo/pkgs/shadow-utils/shadow-4.0.3.tar.bz2/

bin86 is listed here:
http://ftp.linuxfoundation.org/pub/lsb/impl/packages/

This has no certificate on the website. the browser warned me it may be dangerous, so I didn't download it.
To be honest, I don't know what it means. hdparm, anyhow:
https://distro.ibiblio.org/openwall/Owl/pool/sources/hdparm/

I tried to git clone and checkout everything from the list.
I found the trick useful a couple of time, but these packages are too old.


Nothing more to add, I hope you'll find the others.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will pm you a link to the files below

pwdb-0.61.tar.bz2
shadow-4.0.3.tar.bz2
cracklib.2.7.tar.bz2
bin86-0.16.0.tar.bz2

I have some offline storage where I may have other things, but that's still a bit too early for me to have gentoo specific patches. I'll try to get to that this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team,

The dire warnings from the browser are about the site certificate.
The stage1 from 2003 does not understand https at all. Its ftp or http only
The old portage checks file file size and md55sums over every file before it will use it.

shadow-4.0.3.tar.bz2 is a bit of an oddball.
The ebuild is tryng to fetch shadow-4.0.3.tar.gz, not the bz2 version.
If I fix the compression, portage isn't happy which leads me to think that the file contents differ too.

I now have hdparm and bin86 installed though.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have anything current quite that far back. The k6-3 came closest. I'll have to look in the basement for old IDE drives and put the in the k6-3 to check. I think I gave most of those old drives away. Last year I repurposed one to power an Anthlon64 Win 7 install. That would have wiped the Gentoo off. Can't check today. will check n the weekend. But, without a lot of hope.

EDIT: "gave" not have" Unfortunate 'one key off' error completely changed the meaning.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday I bookmarked some other websites where shadow was listed.
These include a .tar.gz or .tgz, but all in https:
https://ftp.pld-linux.org/software/shadow/
https://host-a.net/f/100862-shadow-403targz
https://opensource.buffalo.jp/ts-igl-101.html

Meanwhile, man pages are listed here:
http://mirror.linux.pizza/slackware/slackware-9.0/source/ap/man-pages/
https://iblog.nus.edu.sg/mirror/slackware/slackware-9.0/source/ap/man-pages/

And procps:
http://distfiles.pld-linux.org/by-md5/b/d/bde8c733292ea6a5e4080da93b581c9b/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leonardo.b,

Thank you. Those three worked.
I've edited the lists in my opening post.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team
Its down to three packages now as
Code:
USE=-crypt emerge util-linux
works.

The missing files are:
Code:
wget-new-percentage/wnp-20011208-2.diff
net-tools-1.60-gentoo-extra.tar.bz2
pam-login-3.10.tar.bz2
util-linux-2.11y-crypt-gentoo.patch.gz (Only with USE=crypt


Time to make the kernel boot and think about getting from stage2 to stage3.
That will be a cron daemon, a logger and so on.

Maybe even Xorg and Gnome, which is what I used to use in the early days of my Linux experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allright, I took the occasion to improve my browsing skills.
Not sure to be able to find much more, I just tried anyway another shot in the machine.

wget-new-percentage:
http://cade.datamax.bg/away/wget-new-percentage/
bottom right, a tarball tagged 2004.
The diff patch you are looking for is inside it, kept for historical reasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leonardo.b

I made a mess of copy typing the file name. I'm sorry about that.
From the manifest, the file I need is
Code:
MD5 8da1e4f2991384ddbd575f4109c2ab4a wget-new-percentage-cvs-20011209.tar.gz 12196


None of the files in that tarball match the md5sum.

I just emerged wget again to check the file name. It just worked and I don't know why.
It did fetch a file but it was gone out the the back buffer by the time I scrolled up to read it.

Then there was two.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team,

All the must haves are installed to complete the base system are installed except
Code:
pam_login-3.10.tar.bz2

It boots but logins are not possible.

I had to recreate
Code:
net-tools-1.60-gentoo-extra.tar.bz2
by looking at what the ebuild did and finding all the bits.
I copied the ebuild into an overlay and remade the digest as my file is smaller than the original.

The only bit that's not traceable is ether-wake.c, for wake on lan.

The crypt patch
Code:
util-linux-2.11y-crypt-gentoo.patch.gz
for util-linux is missing too.

As i couldn't find the kernel patch set, its on
Code:
vanilla-sources-2.4.20

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, none of my mothballed drives are that old. Except for the one that has Windows For Workgroups. It probably doesn't even spin up. My first drive.
I d have some eight inch floppy drives. Is anyone interested?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony0945,

Thank you for looking.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably ran emaint of the working machines at some time and it cleared obsolete distfiles. This disturbs me.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you one and all.

It works ... Historical Gentoo
There are a few screenshots there too.
twm
GNOME 2.2.1
KDE 3.1
If you have copies or links to any of the missing files, I'm all ears.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to seatch for some other files in the lists.

Since the last one I gave you was a fake - I pay more caution.
Maybe some KDE stuff is here:
https://master.us.finkmirrors.net/distfiles/md5/c417474e1aa6b7efd9a0233fee81cf71/
There are at least two "kde*3-1.1.tar.bz2" in that mirror, probably more, not sure where.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leonardo.b,

Thank you for the link and the hint on how to find more. I have the md5sums of the files I need.
It had never occurred to me to search for md5sums but that site is indexed that way.

I'm not overly worried about fakes. If the md5sum that portage expects does not match the provided files, the fetch fails.
I've had a few like that, so I notice and know to investigate further.

-- edit --

I have a full set of basic kde-base/kde-*3.1.1.tar.bz files now as well a a few others I was missing.
The KDE upgrade wants some 3.1.1a.diff.bz2 too.

I have the 3.1.1 and the 3.1.1a files complete but I can't make a diff.bz2 that has the correct md5 and size to keep portage happy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2023 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team,

An anonymous benefactor donated links to some of the missing material, so its now my 20th anniversary edition of Gentoo :)
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