[kinda solved] virtual/secret-service without gnome-keyring?

[freifunk_connewitz]

Hi,

I am using net-im/element-desktop-bin but it asks me for a "Default keyring" password on every startup. This dialog seems to be coming from Gnome keyring.

This is a KDE/Plasma desktop system with -gnome and -gnome-keyring general USE flags in make.conf - which means I am using kwallet and do not want to be bothered by gnome packages I never asked for. Additionally, I was never asked to set up a password for a Gnome default keyring, so I could not use it even if I wanted to.

When I looked through the dependencies it seems that element-desktop needs libsecret which asks for virtual/secret-service and this finally pulls in the unwanted gnome keyring:

# equery d gnome-keyring
* These packages depend on gnome-keyring:
sys-auth/pambase-20220214 (gnome-keyring ? gnome-base/gnome-keyring[pam])
virtual/secret-service-0 (gnome-base/gnome-keyring)

# equery d secret-service
* These packages depend on secret-service:
app-crypt/libsecret-0.20.5-r3 (virtual/secret-service)
dev-python/secretstorage-3.3.3 (!s390 ? virtual/secret-service)

# equery d libsecret
* These packages depend on libsecret:
app-admin/system-config-printer-1.5.18 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret[introspection])
app-crypt/gcr-3.41.1-r2 (>=app-crypt/libsecret-0.20)
app-crypt/pinentry-1.2.1-r1 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
dev-libs/qtkeychain-0.13.2 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
dev-vcs/git-2.39.3 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
media-video/vlc-3.0.18 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)
net-im/element-desktop-bin-1.11.29 (app-crypt/libsecret)
net-im/gajim-1.4.7-r2 (python_single_target_python3_10 ? app-crypt/libsecret[crypt,introspection])
(python_single_target_python3_11 ? app-crypt/libsecret[crypt,introspection])
x11-libs/wxGTK-3.2.2.1-r2 (gnome-keyring ? app-crypt/libsecret)

equery d secretstorage
* These packages depend on secretstorage:
dev-python/keyring-23.13.1-r1 (>=dev-python/secretstorage-3.2[python_targets_pypy3(-)?,python_targets_python3_10(-)?,python_targets_python3_11(-)?])
(test ? >=dev-python/secretstorage-3.2[python_targets_pypy3(-)?,python_targets_python3_10(-)?,python_targets_python3_11(-)?])
net-im/gajim-1.4.7-r2 (python_single_target_python3_10 ? >=dev-python/secretstorage-3.1.1[python_targets_python3_10(-)])
(python_single_target_python3_11 ? >=dev-python/secretstorage-3.1.1[python_targets_python3_11(-)])

An

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eix --installed-with-use gnome-keyring

finds no matches.

Can I tell secret-service to rely on kwallet instead? And how?

[sam_]

Note that KWallet will, eventually, one day, maybe have its own secret service implementation: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313216. It was merged, but still quite buggy in practice so isn't usable yet.

[rab0171610]

Note that KWallet will, eventually, one day, maybe have its own secret service implementation: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313216. It was merged, but still quite buggy in practice so isn't usable yet.

Im not gonna hold my breath waiting for that one. Ksecretservice was supposed to implement this and replace Kwallet in this aspect but never did.
The options for net-im/element-desktop-bin are:

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gnome-base/gnome-keyring
app-admin/keepassxc

via virtual/secret-service. Pick your poison because, as Sam pointed out, Kwallet does not work with Element-desktop.

[freifunk_connewitz]

Thank you both for the explanation.

... and again I really dont understand why everybody in my bubble moved away from Jabber to Matrix (and Element).