Question about Openrc support [Solved]

[Fulgurance]

Hi, I have a question about Openrc. I am building actually a Linux system fully from scratch

I would like to install Openrc in my system . But I have one question. Do I need to patch always all sources to work properly with Openrc ? Or normally software providers made their code available for systemd and Openrc ?

I think I can worry about the answer

It's just I prefer Openrc than systemd
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[eccerr0r]

since systemd is what's used by the 400 pound gorilla, chances are if the software is normally started at boot time, it will include the relevant service files for systemd.

If the software does not need to be started at boot time, then openrc/systemd doesn't matter.

Ideally it's fairly simple to hack up an openrc init.d so the distribution packager won't have too much of an issue. This sort of has always been a problem not only openrc but with original sysvinit and other init systems, the distribution packager usually needs to have their own due to conflicts with other potential software making assumptions about your start up sequence.

The other problem is programs that assume systemd's logind or other services. These are harder to work around but elogind gets part of the way there. Again depends on the software developer's choice... Most of the problematic software are user-experience (desktop environments) versus system/server software where the former are the ones that may be tied into systemd.
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What am I supposed watching?

[Fulgurance]

It's me again. So.

I have a question now. I am actually coding a package manager, and actually it able to install a full CLI system with Linux kernel
I compiled Openrc, but how can set properly the Linux kernel to boot with Openrc init ? Do I need a patch ?

Do I need to set few things before ?

Because actually the linux kernel boot only to the default shell with the normal user. But it didn't boot Openrc
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It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[pingtoo]

[Fulgurance]

Oh it work perfectly ! I tried that before, but I think I did a mistake when I made the symlink
Thanks !

Now I have new problems, openrc is hanging when:
I have at the beginning this error: checkpath: owner root:uucp not found (I guess I just need to make a group uucp)
When Local service is loading, it's hanging
If I disable it, when it show: Mounting networking file system, it's hanging again
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[Fulgurance]

I have an another question as well. Openrc clear /run content ? Because all of my software data recorded into /run are erased
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[stefan11111]

[Fulgurance]

Yeah I realized that finally at night yesterday
Maybe it's better if I record all in /var/ism ? (Ism is the name of my project)
What do you think ?

I found why local service was hanging, with this documentation:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC/openrc-init

Thanks to the gentoo developers, it's super easy too add Openrc to a Linux system from scratch.

I just have one problem now, it's to detect network devices. In my virtual machine I have only lo, so nothing ... Maybe with openrc I need netifrc ?
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It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[Fulgurance]

Just to share you the result of my project

Screenshot: https://global.discourse-cdn.com/standard10/uploads/crystal_lang/original/2X/2/2bfda84f097d4fb98240f073b32b10c2dcfadb66.png
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[stefan11111]

[stefan11111]

[Fulgurance]

Thanks !

So do you think of any better alternative than /var ?
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It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[GDH-gentoo]

[Fulgurance]

Cool

Just one question. Normally the gentoo documentation recommend to create the links in /etc/init.d and add them to the default run level for the agetty process.

But in my installation for example (I am running Gentoo), it doesn't use that.

I feel like it's an old recommendation.

How is it now ?
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It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[Fulgurance]

/var/lib ? But it's not lib files, it's data files, in json format. (To record software database)
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[GDH-gentoo]

[Fulgurance]

Thanks a lot for your advices !

Now I just need a bit of help about network.

I enabled all required kernel features to connect to a network (under VirtualBox).

So basically what I need ?

I installed yet dhcpcd.

I guess I need something like eudev or udev.

But do I need something else to make sure my system from scratch recognize properly network devices ?
Actually my system use eudev. Do I need to write rules ?
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[stefan11111]

[Fulgurance]

Okay.

Just to show you, this is what I have when I try to connect to ethernet (screenshot of my VM)

https://www.zupimages.net/up/23/13/nj3a.png

I am not very good with network

It's my only weakness

And why my network device use the old naming convention eth0 ?
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[stefan11111]

[Fulgurance]

So when I ping 127.0.0.1, I have network.

You will see how much I am not good for network, I don't know what is local and external ip

I did a ping test on localhost (I guess it's the local ip ?), I have network as well
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[stefan11111]

[NeddySeagoon]

Fulgurance,

127.0.0.0/8 is hard wired into the kernel. That's the lo interface. localhost is normally 127.0.0.1/8

See private Address Ranges for a list of the private IPv4 address ranges.
That they are considered private is only a convention. You are not supposed to try to route them over the big bad internet. Your ISP will drop them.
If you clutter their logs they will tell you about it too.

Then there is the link local address range.

There are a few IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation too.

That pretty much covers IPv4.
The IPv4 address range is full. Anything not listed above is public.

IPv6 has a similar set of reserved blocks.
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NeddySeagoon

Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.

[Fulgurance]

So this is the result I have:

https://www.zupimages.net/up/23/13/5aef.png
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Ingenius Software Manager is a tool to build and manage a Linux system from scratch.
It will able to manage a linux installation just with a given path to the futur root path

[arnvidr]

My router is at 192.168.0.1 which also seems fairly normal, maybe check that as well.
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