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mtw85
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 Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:38 pm Post subject: What internal drive is best for both backup |
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| Hello everyone so I just wanted to ask, I been having trouble selecting on which drive to chose for my gaming/workstation computer. Which drive should I choose? I'm thinking of either Western Digital or Seagate Barracuda 4tb. By the way this drive is for backup only, I have a Samsung 1tb SSD for the OS. |
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Tony0945
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Western Digital Gold - reliability |
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C5ace
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In order of reliability:
Western Digital Gold
Western Digital Black
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szatox
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| Quote: | | By the way this drive is for backup only |
I say get the cheapest thing you can find.
Or 2 cheapest things you can find and put them in a mirror, if you want to be extra safe. Preferably from different manufacturers or at least different lines or different age (for second-hand drives), so they don't fail at the same time.
Drives, even "the most reliable" will eventually fail, and we have developed RAID to deal with it.
However, losing your backup is not the end of the world either, unless it happens right when you need a restore. So:
A cheap drive will probably last years anyway. How often do you restore? How long do you keep your backups?
How likely are you to hit the window of data lose? What is it going to cost you if that happens?
Do you actually know whether or not your backup solution is working?
E.g. if you do know your backup has just failed, you might opt to fix it first and run that big system upgrade later. It makes losing data more difficult than just going YOLO. |
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mtw85
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| Well I will store my backups on the drive until the drive its self fails, however a solution I found is that every time I logoff I backup my data from the HDD to a usb, that way If anything bad happens to that drive I still have my data. Another question I want to ask because this costed me most of my media but when I keep moving pictures or videos to other usb's they corrupt why is that? And also should I go for a Desktop drive or a NAS drive? I done my research and many say a NAS drive is not the best idea for a Desktop. |
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NeddySeagoon
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mtw85,
Using an internal drive, whatever it is, for backups is doing it wrong.
A PSU failure can destroy all the electronics it powers.
Use an external USB or eSATA enclosure with its own PSU. (USB3 preferred)
In fact, get two or three and use them in rotation.
If you have a single copy of your data, you don't have a backup
If you have one copy and the primary copy fails, you no longer have a backup. See the rule above.
The external self powered enclosure removes the single point catastrophic failure that is the PSU in the PC.
If the PSU in the PC fails, it may destroy the USB chip set in the external enclosure but the drive behind it would likely survive.
HGST was good but they have been swallowed up and the brand disappeared.
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