want to try ALSA once more need help.

[Shaorin]

[turtles]

Just out of curiosity do either of you use google voice or any other web based VIOP in your firefox/ALSA setups?
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no i have used Jitsi, matrix and discord in the borwser
for talking with other people.
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[NeddySeagoon]

turtles,

I tried to use MS Teams once but all I get is

[turtles]

Thats cool that it works for you.
I definitely could not get google voice to work back in 2017 without pulseaudio
Here is the old thread on Firefox dropping ALSA
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1060964-start-25-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html

I'd be curious who at mozilla is working on the ALSA back end.
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I've found Google Voice works normally with firefox and firefox-bin on my alsa only system.
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[turtles]

I am glad ALSA only Firefox (cubeb) works again, sorta
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650131
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1716249

They dont close the ALSA bugs as a wontfix, but only will accept patches.
However they List its status as Teir-3
"Tier-3: Maintainers/patches accepted. Status unclear."

If I was using a ALSA only firefox I would ask mozilla to move it to Teir-2 that means
Firefox still does not officially support, as in paid developer time, anything other than pluseaudio, but they intend to accept community patches
"Tier-2: Actively maintained by contributors. CI coverage appreciated."
https://github.com/mozilla/cubeb/wiki/Backend-Support
That would be a step in the right direction.
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oo i see.
yea teir-2 sounds better,
i do compile firefox-ESR it works fine for me.
im not sure if voice and so on work as it should without apluse.
but i mostly listen to music and so on and use the discord-bin for that, that needs apulse though. but it seems work fine.
still need to do some more soft fixes to setup groups to use a softlevel audio limiter.
then i can have fake audio control and have it set to diffrent levels and just start the package that way,
i did look atlittle on but not tried it yet it. its abit of a hack fix as my friend told me but it should do the job.
i have been on windows alot lately sense i did start to play a game that needs it sadly.
maybe i should install gentoo on my 2014 laptop hhhh and have that to play around with for i really do miss linux in my life.
there are some stuff i do that really needs linux due to the bad supposrt windows has for older software-

but nice to hear it has some kind of support though ALSA is not forgetten even though its only teir-3
maybe they put it to teir-3 for its not to much they care about as in with there time...
so if its teir-3 they have a feeling that most of the patches will be really good quality and dont need as much time to look and check for bad code.
its only my guess i can buy it. but i dont know if its really works like that.
if not please correct me im allways intressted in learning more things
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[figueroa]

Yes, apulse is needed. No problem.
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[turtles]

I think if you run apluse, then your using firefox's pluseaudio backend.
To test firefox in pure ALSA mode you would need a different configuration, I think....

[figueroa]

turtles: Is there a reference for all that or do you have special knowledge? All I know is that it works and I don't have to fuss with it. It worked with firefox and it works with firefox-bin. It works so well that it's a joy to use.
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[turtles]

[Shaorin]

[Shaorin]

[quote="

• If you use firefox-bin, look at the ebuild for firefox-bin
  it does this:
  

  Code:

  CDEPEND="alsa? (       !pulseaudio? (          media-sound/apulse       )    )"

  
  So if you use firefox-bin no matter what USE flag you choose your using its 'pulseaudio' Cubeb backend.
  Even if you have

  Code:

  USE="alsa -pulseaudio"

  
  
  
• Building firefox from source, If you already have installed media-sound/apulse with USE=sdk, then build firefox with USE="pulseaudio", you will be using
  the 'pulseaudio' Cubeb backend in firefox, and the media-sound/apulse provides the missing 'pluseaudio' components.
  And pulseaudio does not get installed on your system.
  
  
• If you build firefox from source with -pluseaudio then the ebuild does this:
  

  Code:

  # force the deprecated alsa sound code if pulseaudio is disabled    if use kernel_linux && ! use pulseaudio ; then       mozconfig_add_options_ac '-pulseaudio' --enable-alsa    fi

  
  

Only in this case#3 are you truly using a pure ALSA Cubeb backend in firefox.
And only these folks are testing the ALSA backend for bugs.
[/quote]

oo thanks i will look. i dont think have any of the sdk useflags i know i only support alsa on my system in the make.conf
but i think apulse dont have any useflags at all.
and even if i unmerge it i still have sound on firefox so i guess it dont use that backend for me.
but its intressting good to keep in mind.
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[figueroa]