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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:44 am    Post subject: pulseaudio is slow to detect any sound cards Reply with quote

Hi,

As the title states when booting my system pulseaudio take about 3-5 mins to get the sound cards and displays dummy ones until it does.
Alsa doesn't have this problem so i suspect it the auto detection module (module-udev-detect).

How can i speed this up? or is the only solution is to manually\static card config in pulseaudio?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
plz post
Code:

emerge --info
dmesg ### in PASTEBIN


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alamahant wrote:
Hi
plz post
Code:

emerge --info
dmesg ### in PASTEBIN



You got it.

https://dpaste.com/D43FEGPJJ

Code:

Portage 3.0.20 (python 3.9.6-final-0, default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd, gcc-10.3.0, glibc-2.33-r1, 5.10.61-gentoo-x86_64 x86_64)
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System uname: Linux-5.10.61-gentoo-x86_64-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7-2600K_CPU_@_3.40GHz-with-glibc2.33
KiB Mem:    16358820 total,   7096176 free
KiB Swap:          0 total,         0 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 23:00:01 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: 4e2a3b8f6229783fb2cf335a59ba141b7f2efd25
sh bash 5.1_p8
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.37_p1 p0) 2.37
distcc 3.4 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [disabled]
ccache version 4.3 [disabled]
app-shells/bash:          5.1_p8::gentoo
dev-java/java-config:     2.3.1::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:            5.34.0-r2::gentoo
dev-lang/python:          2.7.18_p13::gentoo, 3.8.12::gentoo, 3.9.6_p2::gentoo
dev-lang/rust:            1.53.0::gentoo
dev-util/ccache:          4.3-r3::gentoo
dev-util/cmake:           3.20.5::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:      2.7::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox:         2.24::gentoo
sys-devel/autoconf:       2.13-r1::gentoo, 2.69-r5::gentoo
sys-devel/automake:       1.16.4::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:       2.37_p1::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:            10.3.0-r2::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config:     2.4::gentoo
sys-devel/libtool:        2.4.6-r6::gentoo
sys-devel/make:           4.3::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 5.10::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:           2.33-r1::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
    location: /usr/portage
    sync-type: rsync
    sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
    priority: -1000
    sync-rsync-verify-jobs: 1
    sync-rsync-extra-opts:
    sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 24
    sync-rsync-verify-metamanifest: yes

Tron
    location: /usr/local/portage
    masters: gentoo

brother-overlay
    location: /var/lib/layman/brother-overlay
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

calculate
    location: /var/lib/layman/calculate
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

flow
    location: /var/lib/layman/flow
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

jOverlay
    location: /var/lib/layman/jOverlay
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

jorgicio
    location: /var/lib/layman/jorgicio
    masters: gentoo
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reagentoo
    location: /var/lib/layman/reagentoo
    masters: gentoo
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ricerlay
    location: /var/lib/layman/ricerlay
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

stha09
    location: /var/lib/layman/stha09
    masters: gentoo
    priority: 50

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="@FREE"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/sofficerc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php7.4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php7.4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php7.4/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
ENV_UNSET="CARGO_HOME DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DISPLAY GOBIN GOPATH PERL5LIB PERL5OPT PERLPREFIX PERL_CORE PERL_MB_OPT PERL_MM_OPT XAUTHORITY XDG_CACHE_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_RUNTIME_DIR"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
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FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org"
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
MAKEOPTS="--load-average 4 --jobs 2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/tmp"
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Gentoo on a Pi and I realised that a normal user could not do some basic audio things without root previleges. I have wait to put my user in the audio group but this convince me to put it in. Since then he can do any audio tasks. I don't need Pulseaudio on my Pi, I do not project to use Bluetooth on it what need Pulseaudio for me.

Is your user in the audio group or it is pulse who is in it? Are you enabling pulseaudio system wide or per user?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Logicien wrote:
I use Gentoo on a Pi and I realised that a normal user could not do some basic audio things without root previleges. I have wait to put my user in the audio group but this convince me to put it in. Since then he can do any audio tasks. I don't need Pulseaudio on my Pi, I do not project to use Bluetooth on it what need Pulseaudio for me.

Is your user in the audio group or it is pulse who is in it? Are you enabling pulseaudio system wide or per user?


My user is in the audio group, also tried to remove it and the behavior stayed the same.
It is strange that the alsa wiki suggests to add the user to audio while the pulseaudio wiki says that if you are using systemd then no one may be part of the audio group...
I don't have any audio\pulse\alsa users on my system at all

I have pulseaudio set in make.conf so i guess that makes it systemwide.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the pulseaudio USE flag will add support for pulseaudio in what you emerge but starting pulseaudio as system wide allow anybody to connect to the pulseaudio server even root. It is started with root previleges and root own the server. Starting pulseaudio as one user only allow this user to connect to the pulseaudio server. This user is the owner.

Pulseaudio is often start automatically with X for desktop environments, Gnome, Kde, Xfce4 and Lxde. For window managers it may be not. It depend on xdg. On Openbox I have to activate him manually.

pulseaudio system wide have never work for me and is greatly discouraged.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Logicien wrote:
No the pulseaudio USE flag will add support for pulseaudio in what you emerge but starting pulseaudio as system wide allow anybody to connect to the pulseaudio server even root. It is started with root previleges and roor own the server. Starting pulseaudio as one user only allow this user to connect to the pulseaudio server. This user is the owner.

Pulseaudio is often start automatically with X for desktop environments, Gnome, Kde, Xfce4 and Lxde. For window managers it may be not. It depend on xdg. On Openbox I have to activate him manually.

pulseaudio system wide have never work for me and is greatly discouraged.


I'm on KDE plasma so the session is taking care of it, i can see as much in the log

Code:

Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron plasma_session[3535]: org.kde.plasma.session: Starting autostart service  "/etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop" ("/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11")
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron plasma_session[3535]: org.kde.plasma.session: Starting autostart service  "/etc/xdg/autostart/restore_kmix_volumes.desktop" ("/usr/bin/kmixctrl", "--restore")
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron plasma_session[3535]: org.kde.plasma.session: Starting autostart service  "/etc/xdg/autostart/xdg-user-dirs.desktop" ("/usr/bin/xdg-user-dirs-update")
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron plasma_session[3535]: org.kde.plasma.session: Starting autostart service  "/etc/xdg/autostart/geoclue-demo-agent.desktop" ("/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent")
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron plasma_session[3535]: org.kde.plasma.session: Starting autostart service  "/etc/xdg/autostart/kmix_autostart.desktop" ("/usr/bin/kmix", "--keepvisibility")
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron kmixctrl[3642]: org.kde.kmix: no mix devices and not dynamic
Oct 17 18:53:38 Tron pulseaudio[3677]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
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