Which MP3 encoder?

oforero · n00b Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 20

Hi,

I will like to know which mp3 encoder - ripper can I use to encode using Variable Bit Rate ... I test yesterday grip but I dn't see if is or how is possible to use VBR.

thanks.

Craigo · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:12 pm Post subject:

You're better off with ogg vorbis

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pilla · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:58 pm Post subject:

Ogg works like a charm, and you can use grip as frontend.

I'm "ogging" all my CDs, the quality is, at least, as good as MP3 and usually the files are smaller.

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067

Another vote for .ogg. Been using them since '00
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oggenc

to be combined with abcde for ultra-easy cd ripping
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oforero · n00b Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 20

Does ogg use VBR or just achive better space with the same BR.

giant · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Posts: 107

for making mp3s with vbr I personally use LAME.

Best do a search on google for LAME, Ogg,MP3s ... you should find several pages with recommended settings and of course the difference of the codecs.

What you can do of course is use the different codecs and judge for yourself.

If you have external mp3 players that only want mp3s you might want to stick to mp3, if it doesn't matter I guess Ogg is the way to go.

If you are really quality concerned you could check out mpc or musepack. But I cannot really spot the difference

piranha · n00b Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 40

bladeenc

PtitLu · n00b Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 39

oggenc !
Better sound, smaller files, freedom

True · Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 3:57 pm Post subject:

I think you'll find that 'emerge grip' will give you all you need to encode both mp3 and ogg-vorvis. Grip's a front end to ripping and encoding.

As for command line settings, try these (which you can set in grip):

lame -alt-preset-standard (for mp3's)
ogg -q4 (for ogg-vorbis files)

Personally I prefer the sound off Ogg over mp3 but if you have a portable mp3 player then obviously Ogg's no use to you (yet). If you're not worried about portable players you may also want to try the mpc codec. It's stunningly good but hardly know outside of audio-head groups. There's no ebuild for mpc but if you want to try it youll find all you need here:

http://www.uni-jena.de/~pfk/MPP/

For mpc you might try this setting (again, within grip)

mpc --quality 5

Good luck

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Last Shiver · n00b Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 7 Location: Borås, Sweden

LAME!
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Craigo · Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 3:06 pm Post subject:

I tried bladenc, notlame etc.. but totally settled on oggenc which I set the quality setting to '4'. Probably later on, I wouldn't mind setting it up to '5'.

Ogg forever.. until another one comes along!

-/Craigo/-

millenium_psyrax · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 2:03 am Post subject:

I use oggvorbis with abcde. I encode at q=7. This is supposed to be as good as LAME --alt-preset extreme. Use the different quality settings depending on the quality of your sound system. Oggvorbis using q settings encodes using VBR. Oggvorbis and LAME files are the same size when using CBR to encode. But oggvorbis is better (when using VBR) in terms of quality, file size, encoding time and patents. (Or lack thereof)
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salivian · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 15 Sep 2002 Posts: 91

"rip" is a simple commandline ripper (perl script) that works with both lame and ogg vorbis on variable bitrates.

but beware of perl-modules.eclass... it does not install modules at the right place... remove or comment out PREFIX after perl Makefile.PL

segfault01 · n00b Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 1

I'm one of those audiophile types who wants the absolute best sound quality possible, and I've always encoded with lame --r3mix and been verey happy with the results. I did a little sound quality comparison recently between ogg and lame, and I wasn't able to find an ogg setting that suited me. The ogg files just sounded dull in comparison to the lame files. They didn't seem to have as much dynamic range as MP3, even at a quality of 10.

Does anybody else who uses --r3mix find this to be the case, or is it just me? Or can somebody suggest some ogg settings that are comparable to r3mix?
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dizzy · Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:31 am Post subject:

If you consider yourself an audiophile type then you'd know what those people think of lame and --r3mix. Go to http://audio-illumination.org/forums/ and read some well informed opinions. This forum is frequented by authours of some well known encoders (ogg, mpc, acc, etc.) so I think they know what they're talking about more than the average joe.

Bottom line, if you want to read up on what encoder is best for <insert your situation here>, then go to that forum and do a little digging.