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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:43 am    Post subject: emerge --depclean and symliks to lib64 Reply with quote

hi.
For al lot of time I didn't emerge --depclean after world update and now I have so many package to depclean and I'm not sure if can I really depclean those package.

Can somebody take a look at the output of the emerge --ask --decplean command?

I thanks all a lot in advance if you confirm this.

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gui-libs/tepl
    selected: 4.4.0
   protected: none
     omitted: 6.00.0-r1

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     omitted: none

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     omitted: 5.10.52

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There don't seem to be any packages that could compromise your system.
In short looks good to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
sys-devel/gcc
    selected: 9.3.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: 8.3.0-r3 10.3.0-r2
Do you really need to keep gcc-8.3.0-r3? If not remove it explicitly wirh
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emerge -C sys-devel/gcc-8.3.0-r3
Prior to removal, you could binpackage it as in
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quickpkg --include-config y sys-devel/gcc:8.3.0
Same backup reasoning could also apply to sys-devel/gcc:9.3.0.
If required, restore with
Code:
emerge -K sys-devel/gcc:x.y.z
Remove binary package when ready:
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ll /var/cache/binpkgs/sys-devel/gcc*
rm /var/cache/binpkgs/sys-devel/gcc-x.y.z...
Do you have multiple version kernel booting?:
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Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally if you don't recognize something and portage thinks it's okay to remove, it means you don't need it. With --depclean portage won't remove things needed by packages you have installed.

Verifying the list is mostly about things you personally use and I assume you'd know if you use something (and by this I mean things like, an editor, browser, a game, not libidontknow). In which case you may want to add it to your world file to prevent depclean.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot to all, I launch the command and, for now, I don't find problem (only alsa-utils but I remerged and now works)

can I ask another thing that don't is not very pertinent to this thread but I don't think is good to open another one?!

Many months ago I had problem with emerge a package that I don't remember and it created some symbolic link to lib64 folder. Do you think that can I delete all those symlink? If not I don't know if those symlink are used by something or not. Can I check this?

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drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 12288 Aug  2 10:18 lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 11  2019 lib.backup.0000 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 11  2019 lib.backup.0001 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 11  2019 lib.backup.0002 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 11  2019 lib.backup.0003 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 12  2019 lib.backup.0004 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 12  2019 lib.backup.0005 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 14  2019 lib.backup.0006 -> lib64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     5 Dec 14  2019 lib.backup.0007 -> lib64
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems very unlikely anything is using these unless something went really strange.

If you want to check if a package own the symlink, you can run `qfile` on them (will return nothing if orphaned, alternatively qfile -o prints the file if it's orphaned), not that no ownership necessarily mean it's unused (some files aren't tracked, like things created by eselect).

When in doubt, keep a backup of the symlinks and you can always restore if there's anything not right.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks!

If I'll try to delete a symlink one by one, there is a test that I can do immediately to check if something is broken?

I'm doing summer cleaning to my computer... :)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now I remember that the emerge problem was with glibc and every time I tried to compile it create a symlink
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