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Vulgar
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I was going to take part in the poll. But like so many poll's, it is limited and spoils the results. Intentionally or unintentionally.
The xfce and other popular desktops/wm's selections included's both OpenRC & Systemd. There really should be the ability to select only one. Systemd in it self has become an OS.
I use xfce with OpenRC and dwm with OpenRC. Depends on what computer I am using at the time, but I have only one xfce, while I have a number with dwm.
No systemd, don't get me started, paying me will not force me to use it. |
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gentoo_lan
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| I use KDE with OpenRC. Everytime I try to use Systemd I have huge issues with my system (user error probably). |
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Vulgar
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| gentoo_lan wrote: | | I use KDE with OpenRC. Everytime I try to use Systemd I have huge issues with my system (user error probably). |
Not user error, systemd was designed to do things the user does not want done. |
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asph
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I use i3-gaps (patched st, dmenu, i3status etc) with openrc. I don't like kde or other "bloated" DE's that hide everything from the user. I understand why people like them but I just prefer simplicity.
I tried xfce4, mate and budgie but I always go back to i3/dwm.
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mole
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I use Plasma with OpenRC. Detest systemd. Plamsa works well and there always seems to be little niggles when I've moved to a lighter DE - such as Thunderbird & Discord freezing with libnotify errors in Openbox. Also use IceWM & quite liked i3 but not using it ATM.
Edit: If the nVidia/Plasma problems with system sleep persist I'll be moving away from Plasma. Started after an nVidia driver upgrade; a simple "echo mem > /sys/power/state" works fine with Openbox & IceWM; no method seems reliable with Plasma. |
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halcon
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Openbox + startx.
The only actual question is if/when fbpanel will support python3... |
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Ionen
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| halcon wrote: | | The only actual question is if/when fbpanel will support python3... |
Considering hasn't seen any development in 5 years I'd guess never unless someone else picks it up. However, the reason it needs python is kind of silly, it's _only_ used for the configure script (for building it, it's a C-written application), which could probably be converted or straight up replaced by a different build system without too much work. If no one bothers it's probably doomed to be last rited though 
Edit: using `2to3 -w configure .config/*.py` and changing #! headlines to python3 actually seems to make it work and built fine, not that I tried to run it. Considering the script is only used at build time 2to3 seems good enough and using it in the ebuild would probably be fine too (some other ebuilds do exactly that for some build scripts rather than have a large patch to maintain). If you care you could open a bug to suggest this trivial change.
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halcon
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Ionen, thank you much for your reply!
| Ionen wrote: | | the reason it needs python is kind of silly, it's _only_ used for the configure script (for building it, it's a C-written application), which could probably be converted or straight up replaced by a different build system without too much work. |
Really! I've checked that 
| Ionen wrote: | | Edit: using `2to3 -w configure repl.py .config/*.py` and changing #! headlines to python3 actually seems to make it work and built fine, not that I tried to run it. Considering the script is only used at build time 2to3 seems good enough and using it in the ebuild would probably be fine too (some other ebuilds do exactly that for some build scripts rather than have a large patch to maintain). If you care you could open a bug to suggest this trivial change. |
Unfortunately, my knowledge of python is very limited. I understand it only in what is similar to perl...
I prepared diff files of what was before 2to3 and what became after it, and I have few questions:
| Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/argparse.py 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/argparse.py 2020-07-07 18:41:16.577582300 +0300
@@ -97,9 +97,9 @@
from sets import Set as set
try:
- basestring
+ str
except NameError:
- basestring = str
+ str = str
try:
sorted
@@ -1721,7 +1721,7 @@
if not hasattr(namespace, action.dest):
if action.default is not SUPPRESS:
default = action.default
- if isinstance(action.default, basestring):
+ if isinstance(action.default, str):
default = self._get_value(action, default)
setattr(namespace, action.dest, default)
@@ -2199,7 +2199,7 @@
value = action.const
else:
value = action.default
- if isinstance(value, basestring):
+ if isinstance(value, str):
value = self._get_value(action, value)
self._check_value(action, value) |
+ str = str
^^ Is it OK?
| Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/options.py 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/options.py 2020-07-07 18:41:16.608582302 +0300
@@ -96,5 +96,5 @@
str += "yes\n"
else:
str += "no\n"
- print str,
+ print(str, end=' ') |
| Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/repl.py 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/repl.py 2020-07-07 18:42:12.752586680 +0300
@@ -14,5 +14,5 @@
return matchobj.group(0)
-print re.sub('@\w+@', repl_func, sys.stdin.read())
+print((re.sub('@\w+@', repl_func, sys.stdin.read()))) |
| Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/configure 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/configure 2020-07-07 18:42:12.069586627 +0300
@@ -114,7 +114,7 @@
formatter.add_text(self.description)
if all:
- self.help_names = self.help_groups.keys()
+ self.help_names = list(self.help_groups.keys())
for name in self.help_names:
group = self.help_groups[name]
@@ -275,9 +275,9 @@
my_check_output(cmd + pversion.split(), stderr=sp.STDOUT)
except sp.CalledProcessError as e:
if required:
- print(e.output)
- print("This usually means that '" + pname + \
- "' development files are not installed")
+ print((e.output))
+ print(("This usually means that '" + pname + \
+ "' development files are not installed"))
exit(1)
else:
return
@@ -330,7 +330,7 @@
v = int(v)
smake += "%s := %s\n" % (name.upper(), str(v))
- if type(v) == str or type(v) == unicode:
+ if type(v) == str or type(v) == str:
v = '"' + v + '"'
sc += '#define %s %s\n' % (name.upper(), str(v))
smake += "\n" |
+ if type(v) == str or type(v) == str:
^^ Is it OK? (Kinda, it does not harm even if it is repeated three times? )
So, a possible soultion is adding the call of 2to3 in the ebuild, in src_configure (e.g., before `local myconfigure` ?)
| Code: | src_configure() {
tc-export CC
# not autotools based
## HERE ##
local myconfigure=(
./configure V=1
--mandir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/share/man/man1
--datadir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/share/${PN}
--prefix="${EPREFIX}"/usr
--libdir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/$(get_libdir)/${PN}
$(usex alsa --sound --no-sound)
)
echo ${myconfigure[@]} || die
${myconfigure[@]} || die
} |
Edit: ...and changing the "shebangs", sure.
Edit2: ...or src_prepare should be better? All the patching usually goes there.
Edit3: ...and changing PYTHON_COMPAT.
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Ionen
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^ I don't really do python either, but 2to3 is certainly not a magic solution to make code proper and that's why you wouldn't install this code, but what you'll run is the C program so if it builds properly it's all good and you've lost the python2.7 dependency.
And yes, that'd go in src_prepare(), untested so likely overlooking something but would be like | Code: | src_prepare() {
default
2to3 -n -w --no-diffs configure .config/*.py || die
} |
Edit: + update shebangs patch + update python compat yeah. Maintainer may prefer to just use the generated patch though, personally prefer 2to3 ran since it'll also update itself with new python versions as needed. |
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halcon
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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It works 
fbpanel-7.0-r2.ebuild (new)
| Code: | # Copyright 1999-2020 Gentoo Authors
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
EAPI=7
PYTHON_COMPAT=( python3_{6,7,8} )
inherit python-any-r1 toolchain-funcs
DESCRIPTION="light-weight X11 desktop panel"
HOMEPAGE="https://aanatoly.github.io/fbpanel/"
SRC_URI="https://aanatoly.github.io/fbpanel/archive/${PV}.tar.gz -> ${P}.tar.gz"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"
IUSE="alsa"
RDEPEND="
dev-libs/glib:2
alsa? ( media-libs/alsa-lib )
x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf:2[X]
x11-libs/gtk+:2
x11-libs/libX11
"
DEPEND="
${RDEPEND}
${PYTHON_DEPS}
virtual/pkgconfig
x11-base/xorg-proto
"
PATCHES=(
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-6.1-underlinking.patch
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-7.0-clang.patch
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-7.0-images.patch
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-7.0-shebangs.patch
"${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-7.0-fno-common.patch
)
src_prepare() {
default
2to3 -n -w --no-diffs configure .config/*.py || die
}
src_configure() {
tc-export CC
# not autotools based
local myconfigure=(
./configure V=1
--mandir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/share/man/man1
--datadir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/share/${PN}
--prefix="${EPREFIX}"/usr
--libdir="${EPREFIX}"/usr/$(get_libdir)/${PN}
$(usex alsa --sound --no-sound)
)
echo ${myconfigure[@]} || die
${myconfigure[@]} || die
}
pkg_postinst() {
elog "For the volume plugin to work, you need to configure your kernel"
elog "with CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS or CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME or some other means"
elog "that provide the /dev/mixer device node."
} |
fbpanel-7.0-shebangs.patch (modified)
| Code: | --- a/.config/help
+++ b/.config/help
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/python
+#!/usr/bin/env python3
import re, os, sys, textwrap
# Formats help message
--- a/.config/repl.py
+++ b/.config/repl.py
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/python
+#!/usr/bin/env python3
import re, sys
--- a/.config/tar.py
+++ b/.config/tar.py
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/python
+#!/usr/bin/env python3
import subprocess as sp
import re, tempfile
--- a/configure
+++ b/configure
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/python
+#!/usr/bin/env python3
import sys
if sys.version_info < (2, 7):
--- a/exec/make_profile.in
+++ b/exec/make_profile.in
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
umask 0077
# new profile directory
--- a/exec/xlogout
+++ b/exec/xlogout
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
# xlogout - logs user out of its X session
# Linux specific since uses /proc
--- a/scripts/endianess.sh
+++ b/scripts/endianess.sh
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
# When cross compiling, you may put cross compiler directory
# in PATH before native gcc (aka spoofing), or you may set CC
--- a/scripts/install_locale.sh
+++ b/scripts/install_locale.sh
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
dir=/tmp/lo-$$
mkdir $dir
--- a/scripts/install_locale.sh.in
+++ b/scripts/install_locale.sh.in
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
dir=/tmp/lo-$$
mkdir $dir
--- a/scripts/install.sh
+++ b/scripts/install.sh
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
usage ()
{
--- a/scripts/mk_tar
+++ b/scripts/mk_tar
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
function info()
--- a/scripts/rfs-pkg-config
+++ b/scripts/rfs-pkg-config
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
# Tt runs pkg-config in a way that everything is searched under RFS
# but reported including full path. Suitable for cross-compiling
--- a/scripts/update-proj.sh
+++ b/scripts/update-proj.sh
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
function usage ()
{
--- a/www/plugins/mk_gallery
+++ b/www/plugins/mk_gallery
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/sh
+#!/usr/bin/env sh
echo > "$1"
#echo '<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff">' >> "$1"
--- a/www/shots/mk_gallery
+++ b/www/shots/mk_gallery
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/sh
+#!/usr/bin/env sh
function help ()
{
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I emerged fbpanel-7.0-r2 and restarted it. Everything looks like before.
# emerge -pv --depclean python:2.7 | grep fbpanel
shows nothing!
Thanks again, Ionen.
I am going to post this to Bugzilla. |
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Hu
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I know this is a generated patch, so my criticisms are leveled at the code, not at you. | halcon wrote: | | Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/argparse.py 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/.config/argparse.py 2020-07-07 18:41:16.577582300 +0300
@@ -97,9 +97,9 @@
from sets import Set as set
try:
- basestring
+ str
except NameError:
- basestring = str
+ str = str
try:
sorted
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This looks useless, but not harmful. | halcon wrote: | | Code: | --- a/work/fbpanel-7.0/configure 2015-12-05 09:34:19.000000000 +0300
+++ b/work/fbpanel-7.0/configure 2020-07-07 18:42:12.069586627 +0300
@@ -275,9 +275,9 @@
my_check_output(cmd + pversion.split(), stderr=sp.STDOUT)
except sp.CalledProcessError as e:
if required:
- print(e.output)
- print("This usually means that '" + pname + \
- "' development files are not installed")
+ print((e.output))
+ print(("This usually means that '" + pname + \
+ "' development files are not installed"))
exit(1)
else:
return |
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Useless, but safe. | halcon wrote: | | Code: | @@ -330,7 +330,7 @@
v = int(v)
smake += "%s := %s\n" % (name.upper(), str(v))
- if type(v) == str or type(v) == unicode:
+ if type(v) == str or type(v) == str:
v = '"' + v + '"'
sc += '#define %s %s\n' % (name.upper(), str(v))
smake += "\n" |
+ if type(v) == str or type(v) == str:
^^ Is it OK? (Kinda, it does not harm even if it is repeated three times? ) |
This is fine. The second test is pointless, but the interpreter will allow it. | halcon wrote: | | Edit2: ...or src_prepare should be better? All the patching usually goes there. |
I think src_prepare would be better. |
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halcon
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Hu,
thanks for your comments!
| Ionen wrote: | | personally prefer 2to3 ran since it'll also update itself with new python versions as needed. |
PYTHON_COMPAT as I wrote it contains explicit python3 subversions, so it would anyway require manual updating when 3.9 come to the tree... Makes sense to remove _{6,7,8}? |
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Ionen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| halcon wrote: | | Ionen wrote: | | personally prefer 2to3 ran since it'll also update itself with new python versions as needed. |
PYTHON_COMPAT as I wrote it contains explicit python3 subversions, so it would anyway require manual updating when 3.9 come to the tree... Makes sense to remove _{6,7,8}? |
No that should be kept and with python version additions tests be done for each. Point is more that the patch won't (potentially) need to be re-generated for different/new versions since it'll use the 2to3 version for the current interpreter (through python-exec) mostly ensuring compatibility since 3.x versions also break "python3" scripts while deprecating things.
That aside, 3.9 could've been added at this point (work on that began since out of alpha). Not that it's something you need to worry about, maintainers will just review and change anything they feel is either better or missing if accepted. For now just need to wait. |
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halcon
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I didn't think that PYTHON_COMPAT may be used for tests and about compatibility between python3 versions... Clear now.
Well, fbpanel-7.0-r2 is already in the tree! There have been corrected some deps, renamed the patch, otherwise no change.
And, above all, fbpanel's now been saved from last-riting |
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Ionen
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| halcon wrote: | | Well, fbpanel-7.0-r2 is already in the tree! |
Good to hear Being simple C with rather basic dependencies (not like gtk2 is going anywhere), it's probably there to stay for a long time. |
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halcon
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| Ionen wrote: | | Being simple C with rather basic dependencies (not like gtk2 is going anywhere), it's probably there to stay for a long time. |
Yes, hopefully, it will
Basic dependencies - rare virtue these days...  |
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| I swap back and forth from DWM and XFCE (OpenRC) |
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| Window Maker. Sometimes I give a try to other beasts like openbox, awesome, i3, dwm, yet still - no DE, perhaps I like things to be simple :) |
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| Kde, xfce, openbox, with openrc. |
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| I tried KDE again recently. I like it, as far as desktop environments go. I've been using Openbox for a long time, and I'm used to having keyboard shortcuts for most functions (running programs, managing/moving/resizing windows) and not having any window titlebars or borders (they seem like a waste of space to me). If I were used to the old paradigm of having a program menu and needing to use a taskbar for finding programs and using titlebars, buttons, and borders for managing windows, then I would probably like KDE much more. |
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salvii422
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| i3-gaps with OpenRC and startx. |
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eccerr0r
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Time to lock and start a 2021 poll/thread?
Time limited makes sense, don't want people posting what they did in 2021 in a 2020 poll...
(interesting, seems more people are willing to admit they use systemd on Gentoo last year too.)
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and ... @50% of the respondents are not able to indicate which init system they use. I suggest breaking out XFCE as follows:
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XFCE + OpenRC
XFCE + Systemd |
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Other DE + OpenRC
Other DE + Systemd
WM only + OpenRC
WM only + Systemd |
The other named DEs LXQT and Mate are below the threshold needed to be meaningful.
OR, be more inclusive and add additional DEs and WMs explicitly listing both OpenRC and Systemd for each entry.
Just an humble suggestion.
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| I don't know why init system should be part of the poll at all. |
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