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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:30 am    Post subject: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

The Tux'(s) little helper thread got me thinking... There are a lot of people here who's first language is not English, but know it because they learned it in school or whatever... A couple of questions for those folks:
1. Is English typically a required class in school?
2. I've heard that British English is the dialect and accent typically taught - is this actually the case?

And for those who speak/write the British version... In my American English classes, IIRC, plurals ending in "s" were made posessive just by adding an apostrophe, and singular nouns were made plural with 's even if they ended in s or an s sound, but that was flexible (if the lack of plurality was clear by context and just an apostrophe made it more readable, that was OK.)

Of course, getting worked up over that one is kinda rediculous - I don't know of anyone in my generation who correctly conjugate "will" in the first person singular case.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

phong wrote:
1. Is English typically a required class in school?

Yes. Here, Spanish is also common. French and German appear sometimes, too.

phong wrote:
2. I've heard that British English is the dialect and accent typically taught - is this actually the case?

In Europe, probably yes. But not here, AFAIK. I've learned the American version first, but I actually find the British one clearer and easier to understand, when spoken.

phong wrote:
is kinda rediculous

Err... ridiculous? :P

phong wrote:
I don't know of anyone in my generation who correctly conjugate "will" in the first person singular case.

Why? Isn't it just "I will"? 8O
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

When I was at school, English was required... And also for CS college.

fghellar wrote:
phong wrote:
1. Is English typically a required class in school?

Yes. Here, Spanish is also common. French and German appear sometimes, too.


In school, I would dare to say they teach us something which is neither American nor British =) But I also think that British pronounce is easier than the American one (and I'm living at the USA right now).

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phong wrote:
2. I've heard that British English is the dialect and accent typically taught - is this actually the case?

In Europe, probably yes. But not here, AFAIK. I've learned the American version first, but I actually find the British one clearer and easier to understand, when spoken.



Shall? =)

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phong wrote:
I don't know of anyone in my generation who correctly conjugate "will" in the first person singular case.

Why? Isn't it just "I will"? 8O
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

phong wrote:
I don't know of anyone in my generation who correctly conjugate "will" in the first person singular case.


I shall prove you wrong.

Also, in casual context I'll is an acceptable contraction of I shall.

I like southern english better, imo. Y;all know what i'm talkin' 'bout. There ain't no better way to talk.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

fghellar wrote:
phong wrote:
I don't know of anyone in my generation who correctly conjugate "will" in the first person singular case.

Why? Isn't it just "I will"? 8O

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Shall? =)

gsfgf wrote:
I shall prove you wrong.

It wasn't restricted to the first conjugation... :P 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

fghellar wrote:
phong wrote:
is kinda rediculous

Err... ridiculous? :P

Hey now, this is a grammar thread, not a spelling thread. :oops:

fghellar wrote:
It wasn't restricted to the first conjugation...

Now I fell EXTRA stupid. Thanks. :D
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another site you may find useful is www.dictionary.com which also has an option for a thesaurus.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: British vs. American English... Reply with quote

phong wrote:
2. I've heard that British English is the dialect and accent typically taught - is this actually the case?

This often depends on the history of the region in question. With a historical British colonial and/or trade presence, it is most likely that British English is taught. Examples I am familiar with: Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Bangladesh, China.

With a stronger American than British colonial and/or trade presence, American English is more often taught. Examples: Japan, South Korea, Vietnam.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never would have thought that I would learn grammar while browsing the Gentoo fora...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, no latin, please! 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm... isn't fora the correct pluralis of forum ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fora is correct, so is forums.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And like I said, it is latin.
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