sakaki standing down from EFI Install Guide maintenance

Sakaki · Guru Joined: 21 May 2014 Posts: 409

sakaki stepping down from EFI Install Guide / sakaki-tools maintenance (effective EOL notice)

Dear fellow Gentoo enthusiasts -

I am afraid I have some difficult news to share.

Sadly, due to legal obligations arising from a recent change in my 'real world' job, I must announce I am standing down as maintainer of Sakaki's EFI Install Guide and the underlying sakaki-tools repo with immediate effect.

For more details to the background of this decision, please see this post.

For the meantime, I will leave the EFI Install Guide and sakaki-tools repo up (for historical interest and since they may be of use to others); however, I plan no further updates, nor will I be accepting or actioning further pull requests / bug reports from this point. Email requests for support will also have to be politely declined ><. I will continue to monitor this forum, but will be unable to provide in-depth technical responses to queries, and any responses may be somewhat delayed.

If you have used my EFI guide to install your Gentoo system, it should still continue to work for some time, but you should now take steps to migrate to a baseline Gentoo Handbook install (since the underlying tools, such as buildkernel, will also now no longer be supported and may eventually fail as more modern kernels etc. are released).

My sincere and heartfelt apologies to those who have contributed to, used and installed systems based on this guide over the more than six years since I first released it (seems such a long time ago now!).

And my heartfelt thanks to the fantastic team of devs and enthusiasts who make up the Gentoo and community (a particular shout out to NeddySeagoon!). It's been an honour to be a part of those endeavours for a little while, and I hope the guide has helped, in some small way, to make the process of bringing up a Gentoo system more straightforward for beginners.

So, kind regards, stay well, and I trust our paths may cross again in the future ^-^

Sayounara!
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Tony0945 · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:10 pm Post subject:

OMG! I guess that will also apply to your excellent Raspberry pi builds.

We do what we must to put food on the table. Thank you for all your work!

Sakaki · Guru Joined: 21 May 2014 Posts: 409

Tony0945,

Yes, sadly this applies to gentoo-on-rpi-64bit too.

Please see my post about that here.
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ali3nx · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:30 am Post subject:

Good fortunes to you and congrats on the new job. Your contributions have been greatly appreciated by many people.

I'm currently helping someone on the gentoo discord server migrate to an efistub boot luks setup that doesn't rely on buildkernel

I never did manage to get your arm64 rpi image booted in qemu but perhaps i'll find the time and curiosity again someday in the near future.
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Perfect Gentleman · Veteran Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249

So, they've bought you utterly.

elover · Apprentice Joined: 20 Nov 2019 Posts: 159 Location: Spain

Thank you very much for your effort and your wisdom.

PS: I still can't install gentoo without grub, I would love to know the steps without the script you created.

Greetings, and have a good job

Mithrandir · n00b Joined: 23 Jan 2017 Posts: 7

Sakaki: Thank you very much for all your effort, your guide and tools were really helpful in the recent years and I could said I learned Gentoo thanks to you.
I don't know how many people is with me on this, but I find a bit difficult and inconvenient to migrate out from the Buildkernel approach. So I would like to ask/propose here for some kind of continuity solution for this. Since all the people affected is going to find this thread, I guess this is the best place to do it.
The scope of Sakaki's work is really broad, but maybe some of us could try to focus on Buildkernel and Genup (excluding the guide and other tools).
EDIT: ...or maybe somebody could help the less skilled of us to migrate out of the Buildkernel scheme? I feel a kind of traped here.

Marlo · Veteran Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 1591

Sakaki,
Thank you very much for your exact work on Gentoo.
Good luck to you and satisfaction with your family.
The future will be yours.

See you later...
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Tony0945 · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject:

Perfect Gentleman · Veteran Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249

I've just stated the fact.
And really, I don't get it how employer can demand from someone to stop having a hobby.

Tony0945 · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject:

Perfect Gentlemen,

You want to eat? Sign it or get out. Lots of H1-B's standing in line for that job. it's industry practice. Some lawyer dreamed it up.
All that is missing is the auction black and barker. And the physical chains.

Perfect Gentleman · Veteran Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249

Afaik, sakiki wasn't unemployment, and I really doubt that income was not enough to live more than normally. And honestly, I don't like all that bullshit that employer forced me to stop contributing to open source community. It sounds like ... you know.

A lot of projects became unmaintained and dropped suddenly and without explanations. A no one died or dropped a tear. Some projects were picked up , many of them nope. It's open source where no one owes anyone.

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:51 pm Post subject:

Perfect Gentleman,

Its fairly normal to not be permitted to be in a position where you can accidentality cross contaminate GPL code with non GPL compatible code.
Contamination is either direction is a very bad thing.

I don't read any more into it than that.
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Hu · Moderator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 21633

According to one of Sakaki's recent posts, her decision was between staying in the job she had held before the pandemic started, or switching to this one. The old job had become undesirable because the company's daily/weekly/monthly goals exceeded what the available staff could complete in a reasonable amount of time.

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:18 pm Post subject:

Hu,

That's common in the UK too.
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:52 pm Post subject:

No matter the reason for Sakaki stopping work on different projects, it's their choice. All anyone should say is thanks for the fish.

I've never used any of the projects that Sakaki has worked on/contributed to, but I wish them well.
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Perfect Gentleman · Veteran Joined: 18 May 2014 Posts: 1249

avdb · n00b Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 65 Location: Netherlands

When I was new too Gentoo your guide was the first one I tried out, I was the one that e-mailed you about supporting Musl in your guide but I guess that that was asking for a little too much. Tried Void Linux with Musl (saved me from having to compile everything from scratch) but it was still a very unstable experience since everything crashed constantly! Thanks for your work Sakaki, I sill use some parts of your guide to this day because they contain stuff you don't find in the standard Gentoo handbook :roll:

Jallee · n00b Joined: 17 Oct 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Sweden

Thank you for your time and patience and Good luck with your new job!
Don't let the spin get you.

lperkins2 · n00b Joined: 18 Apr 2014 Posts: 14

Since I use that project professionally, and since no one else has stepped up to maintain it, I am doing so. I'll also probably end up maintaining the tooling associated with it (genup at the very least). The new projects are on the GenPi64 github organization.

raddaqii · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:06 pm Post subject:

Both sad news and good news, that is. Wishing her all the best for the new carreer!

Since I run several systems setup the Sakaki way, is there any migration guideline as of yet, or is documentation growing around the process somewhere?

Effectively, it seems genup was a shortcut for several steps: update the tree, then packages, and build a new kernel. Besides the very thoroughly described LUKS setup that genup was the one reason to go this route. Or did I miss anything with using it that way?
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raddaqii · Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:46 am Post subject:

Just in case in isn't occuring to you to check there, over at reddit and in the unofficial discord channel (in #support-2) a fairly complete discussion emerged of all matters involved with migrating away from a Sakaki setup.
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Duco Ergo Sum · Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:21 pm Post subject:

Hi Sakaki,

I would like to express my gratitude to you for your hard work and everything that you have shared. You have distilled knowledge. You have created tools. You have shared and communicated vibrantly.

Wishing you all the best!

poe_1957 · Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:00 pm Post subject: Sakaki

"Thanks for all the fish" you put in those projects.
(quote from Douglas Adams, a marvelous guy who passed away and wrote 'the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy' a book everybody should read at least 42 times)
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Xoores · n00b Joined: 15 Feb 2022 Posts: 1 Location: EU

Hi Sakaki,

I wanted to thank you for buildkernel and EFI installation guide for a long time. I was honestly quite sad when you announced this :cry:

If anyone is interested, I did just rewite core part/features of buildkernel and named it buildkernel-next as a sort of "memorial" of your great work (hope you don't mind). I've changed a few things around - for example it uses more maintained things like Dracut, does not need staticgpg etc so it should be good for long-term. For now it is of course "beta" and needs to be tested, polished etc but it should work as intended. I plan to keep this maintained at least as long as I will be running Linux.

I'll probably do the same with EFI installation guide at some point but for now I don't really have the time for it.

Thanks again for everything!
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