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RIA77 Guru
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 pm Post subject: I can't mount any NTFS partitions, installed NTFS3g |
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Hello to all!
I have following problems - can't mount any NTFS partition (installed NTFS 3g, enabled NTFS in kernel), and I can't login as a root.
I can log without problems to XFCE as non-root.
I added wheel to user, but still I can't mount anything.
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alamahant Advocate
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean "cant login as root"?
Via display manager?
Or via terminal?
Ssh?
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su -
mount -t ntfs /partition /mountpoint
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I hope you have set root passwd.
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sudo mount -t ntfs /partition /mountpoint
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usermod -aG wheel <user> _________________
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RIA77 Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I can't log via display manager as a root.
I can sucessfuly login as non-root user and login as root in terminal.
Quote: | !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies
!!! triggered by backtracking:
sys-auth/polkit:0
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User is added as a wheel. |
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alamahant Advocate
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:11 am Post subject: |
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In sddm you can not login as root easily.
In lightdm it is possible. _________________
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asturm Developer
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Don't login as root. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:16 am Post subject: |
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RIA77,
The kernel NTFS driver is broken/incomplete, depending on your point of view. It should not be used.
Its mostly harmless for read only access though.
Use the kernel FUSE support and sys-fs/ntfs3g for full read/write access to NTFS volumes.
The filesystem type is either ntfs-3g or ntfs3g. I forget which. The kernel driver uses the ntfs filesystem type.
Using a GUI as root is dangerous. So don't do it. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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RIA77 Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:23 am Post subject: |
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alamahant wrote: | In sddm you can not login as root easily.
In lightdm it is possible. |
I have been using Lighdm.
When I try to mount partitions, "not authorized to perform operation" appears.
I can't restart or shutdown from XFCE either. Only logoff is enabled.
NeddySeagoon wrote: | RIA77,
Using a GUI as root is dangerous. So don't do it. |
I know. But I just wanted to check why I can't mount any partitions, I hoped that I can as a root. |
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alamahant Advocate
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:37 am Post subject: |
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When I try to mount partitions, "not authorized to perform operation" appears.
I can't restart or shutdown from XFCE either. Only logoff is enabled.
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In make.conf
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USE="........elogind policykit"
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Then
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emerge -uDNav @world
rc-update add dbus default
rc-update add elogind default
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:09 am Post subject: |
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RIA77,
Use a root shell to test things like that. Unless the object to be mounted is listed in fstab with the user or users option, only root can perform manual mounts anyway.
If you use an automounter then anyone can mount anything anytime. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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RIA77 Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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How to properly list NTFS in fstab in order to automount it ? |
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Ralphred Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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From my fstab Code: | UUID=20FD93793686F0C4 /mnt/NTFS_Storage ntfs defaults,rw 0 0 |
EDIT: DO NOT USE SEE BELOW
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ralphred,
That -t ntfs is the kernel driver and its write support is broken, very limited. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Ralphred Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:16 am Post subject: |
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It mounts using fuseblk Ned, from mtab: Code: | /dev/sda1 /mnt/NTFS_Storage fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 |
Never seen any write issues, and 100 of the 150G in use was written from Gentoo after it was decommissioned as a system drive |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Ralphred,
fuseblk says you are using ntfs3g, not the kernel ntfs driver.
The kernel ntfs driver used to make a mess of the filesystem during writes.
That was 'fixed' by limiting ntfs writes to changing the content of existing files without changing the file size. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Ralphred Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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So, assuming I wanted to add ntfs kernel support (for purely rhetorical purposes), with the 3g driver I'm using what should the fstype be in fstab to keep similar behaviour to that which I have now? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ralphred,
It would be -t ntfs to use the kernel ntfs driver. You won't like it though. Not for write access anyway. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Ralphred Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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You misunderstood my premise (my bad for using 'similar' in the mathematical sense), what should fstype be to continue using the 3g driver? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ralphred,
man ntfs-36: | ntfs-3g(8) - Linux man page
Name
ntfs-3g - Third Generation Read/Write NTFS Driver
Synopsis
ntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] volume mount_point
mount -t ntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] volume mount_point
lowntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] volume mount_point
mount -t lowntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] volume mount_point |
The web page fomatting has got mangled. I have not had ntfs for nearly 20 years. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Ralphred Guru
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:28 am Post subject: |
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So, thanks to Neddy I have Code: | UUID=20FD93793686F0C4 /mnt/NTFS_Storage ntfs-3g defaults,rw 0 0 | in /etc/fstab which produces Code: | /dev/sda1 /mnt/NTFS_Storage fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 | in /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts.
More importantly, the mounted partition works like any other mounted FS |
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