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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW there needs to be a poll on what people call their directories for extra partitions. Seems a lot of people call it /srv, or at least it's not the first time I saw someone call it /srv... Perhaps this is standard for some other distributions? Dunno.


For me it very much depends what is it for. It is often /scratch :)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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eccerr0r wrote:

BTW there needs to be a poll on what people call their directories for extra partitions. Seems a lot of people call it /srv, or at least it's not the first time I saw someone call it /srv... Perhaps this is standard for some other distributions? Dunno.

For me it very much depends what is it for. It is often /scratch :)

Always /scratch. It's a habit I picked up from a respected Unix system admin. Truthfully, everything I have in /scratch should be in /home. But, the result is that I have plenty of extra elbow room in both /home and /scratch.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I also have a /scratch somewhere too :D
Then again I also use /windows, /msdos (but never /ntfs), /raid (even if root is on RAID too, and never /lvm), /sd[a-z][1-9], /storage, and more ...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

figueroa wrote:
dmpogo wrote:
eccerr0r wrote:

BTW there needs to be a poll on what people call their directories for extra partitions. Seems a lot of people call it /srv, or at least it's not the first time I saw someone call it /srv... Perhaps this is standard for some other distributions? Dunno.

For me it very much depends what is it for. It is often /scratch :)

Always /scratch. It's a habit I picked up from a respected Unix system admin. Truthfully, everything I have in /scratch should be in /home. But, the result is that I have plenty of extra elbow room in both /home and /scratch.


For me the difference is that /scratch is not (and not expected by users to be) backed up, while /home is backed up most carefully. This is a classical simulations oriented setup, where outputs are huge.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I also have a /scratch somewhere too :D
Then again I also use /windows, /msdos (but never /ntfs), /raid (even if root is on RAID too, and never /lvm), /sd[a-z][1-9], /storage, and more ...


I have /virt where I use virtual machines.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case, the bulk of my personal files are offloaded to /scratch and connected to /home with symlinks.
Code:
cups-pdf
Documents
Downloads
Photos
Pictures
Videos
.mozilla
.thunderbird

and a few other directories unique to my own usage, a personal bin directory, mp3, wav, and two develpement directories for the web.

/home and /scratch are in their own partitions with everything else in the system root "/". And everything is meticulously backed up automatically on a nightly schedule for personal files and weekly for the system on a rotating basis to there are always at least three copies on a different drive. These backups are encrypted and copied to external media (flash drives and others) on a weekly, rotating basis.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see all this in 'man hier' :P
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split from Resizing root?

dmpogo,

Feel free to add a Poll to your original post in this topic
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat. because I put the split in the wrong place.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put them all under /mnt

/mnt/backup
/mnt/distfiles
/mnt/media
/mnt/packages
/mnt/steam

etc...

and yes, there is a /mnt/scratch too (which I essentially treat as a non-volatile /tmp)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
I don't see all this in 'man hier' :P


Thanks for this. Really. I'm on of those "admins of my own servers" without any formal training, and always picked up by osmosis where (gentoo|linux in general) put things. I didn't know this man page existed...

Particularly with recent (gentoo) migrations to using /var/db/

Which I just notice isn't documented in man hier. Oh well nothing's perfect. Is there a gentoo specific version of this man page?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've arranged it so:

I have separate /var, /home, /tmp, /dev/shm.
/var is 30 GB, contains all the repos and distfiles, and I have to run eclean distfiles from time to time (I think, for subsequent installations I'll be making it not less than 40 GB).

All HDD/SDD partitions are under /home/user/disks.

All folders for external drives are under /mnt
    /mnt/bigdiskdir - type "ntfs-3g"
    /mnt/cdaudio - type "iso9660" (for wine)
    /mnt/cdrom - type "auto" (for native system)
    /mnt/exfatdir - type "exfat-fuse"
    /mnt/flashdir - type "vfat" (SD/SDXC via card reader, differs from usbdir in sdLETTER)
    /mnt/isodir - for mounting iso images
    /mnt/nasdir - for NAS drives
    /mnt/usbdir - type "vfat" (usb drives)
I don't have a DE, so I arrange all mounts manually.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtwrek wrote:
Which I just notice isn't documented in man hier. Oh well nothing's perfect. Is there a gentoo specific version of this man page?

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Mark,

I don't think anyone would resent if you opened a bug at Gentoo bugzilla with this request. Man pages are wonderful, I always feel sorry for folks who neglect to use them and start a spoonfeeding request in the forums instead. I'm an autodidact like you. I knew very little about computers when the company I was working for was forced to get some computers and the CEO offered me the newly founded IT manager position. Kept it for 7+ years and quit only because I could not stand MS Windows any more.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saellaven wrote:
I put them all under /mnt

/mnt/backup
/mnt/distfiles
/mnt/media
/mnt/packages
/mnt/steam

etc...

and yes, there is a /mnt/scratch too (which I essentially treat as a non-volatile /tmp)


I also have some non-mandatory stuff under /mnt but my external drives are under /misc managed by autofs, symlinked to /mnt
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

either after data on the drive like ~/blockchains
or if it's general data then by the manufacturer and size like ~/seagate500
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine are all in /mnt and in /etc/fstab with the user option to be mounted by label.

As I don't have an automounter because in ruins DVD+R RW disks, only root can can mount random external drives.
Its not really a security measure. Anyone can write a label on another system.
I don't use DVD+R RW any more but I like not having an automouter.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also /mnt like saellaven.
I have a few CIFS mounts that mount into the tree like /home/tony/Documents so that I don't have different versions on different machines. Thinking f doing the same with /home/tony/PROJECTS. rsync them all then mount one version. monthly umount and rsync so that eavh machne has a backup copy. If the server gous down, then the server is synced before mounting.

Everything on a seperate partition on the same machine is under /mnt. And, of course, /mnt/gentoo which is not automounted but handy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Mine are all in /mnt and in /etc/fstab with the user option to be mounted by label.

As I don't have an automounter because in ruins DVD+R RW disks, only root can can mount random external drives.
Its not really a security measure. Anyone can write a label on another system.
I don't use DVD+R RW any more but I like not having an automouter.



I certainly would not automount DVD's :) (if I recall what is it, funny how dvd-rw-tools tar ball is from 2008). Though I did automount floppies in the old times
I automount my external collection of disks in eSATA enclosure, which have collection of movies/music and backup disks.
First two I use rarely, backup is used couple of times a day
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So my office computer (old guy from 2010) mount table is

Code:

/dev/sda1       /boot                   ext2            noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/sda2       /                       ext2            noatime         0 1
/dev/sdb1       none                    swap         sw,pri=1        0 0
/dev/sdc1       none                    swap         sw,pri=1        0 0
/dev/md2        /var                   reiserfs       noatime         0 2
/dev/md5        /home                 reiserfs       noatime         0 2
/dev/md6        /scratch/wheeler      xfs              noatime         0 2
/dev/md7        /virt                 xfs              noatime         0 2
/dev/sdi1       /mnt/usbkey           auto            noauto,users,noatime,rw 0 0
/dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom            auto            noauto,user,ro  0 0
/dev/fd0        /mnt/floppy           auto            noauto          0 0


sda is SSD disk with boot and / partitions
sdb/sdc is a pair of RAID 1 mechanical drives

/var contains all portage under /var/portage
/scratch/wheeler is shared via NFS to other machines (as well as scratch from other machines is NFS mounted under /scratch/name)

sdd (not shown) - external backup eSata drive automounted under /misc. I am backing up only /etc and /home

If I stick USB stick into my monitor it comes as /dev/sdi

And yes, I have a floppy drive :)

my /mnt is

Code:

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 23  2010 SD
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   12 Oct 13  2010 backup -> /misc/backup
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 27  2011 cdrom
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 30  2010 ext_disk
drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jun 16  2010 floppy
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 23  2010 usbkey


has couple of extra mount points for manual mount. Sadly I don't think I used once an SD card reader.
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