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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:12 pm    Post subject: Gimp 2.8 instead of Gimp 2.10 Reply with quote

I dont like new Gimp 2.10.
Can I somehow install old releas -- Gimp 2.8?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Welcome to Gentoo!
Apparently gimp-2.8 is not available in the repos.
Please see this
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/media-gfx/gimp
Also I couldnt find an overlay for it.
Maybe you can buil it yourself...If you get the source.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With some effort, you can make the newer GIMP 2.10 look and feel like your more familiar 2.8. I agree with your sentiment. I think GIMP development is suffering from shiny-new-thing syndrome. Reference: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_suffer_from_Shiny_New_Stuff_Syndrome
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to go 2.8 and can't find alternate repository for it,
you will first have too learn how to set up a local repository & populate it: Gentoo wiki.
Then you can rebuild the 2.8 package files using Gentoo git repo.
You'll have to make sure you have all the required patch files in the appropriate ./files directory along with the ebuild.
Some required ones may not appear in the above link, as they remain active for the official ebuild, from which you will then pick them from.
Then build the manifest from within the local created ebuild directory.
Code:
ebuild myebuild.ebuild digest
Set your use flags in /etc/portage/package.env, if required.
Et voila! You should be ready to go:
Code:
emerge myebuild::mylocalrepository
That's a long way to go if you're beginning with Gentoo, despite very likely to be inevitable one day or another.
Maybe Andy Figueroa's advice is a more suitable way to go by now...

Gentoo is all about choice!8)

Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Glimpse if you don't like the direction GIMP upstream has taken.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
Try Glimpse if you don't like the direction GIMP upstream has taken.


Anyone have recommendations for a package already in portage? (I like to look first before trying an overlay)

I've been getting this lately and it's needed only only by gimp:
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!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r5::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)

Edit: apologies if this seems like a thread hijack. I wouldn't mind sticking with gimp if there is a way.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glimpse. -- I am offended. https://glimpse-editor.github.io/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

russK wrote:
I've been getting this lately and it's needed only only by gimp:
Code:
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r5::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)

Edit: apologies if this seems like a thread hijack. I wouldn't mind sticking with gimp if there is a way.


Turn off the python flag to gimp OR unmask pygtk.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you not like about 2.10?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forget what I did, but I managed to ditch the pygtk dependency a few weeks ago. And, I managed to get GIMP 2.10 reconfigured to have a reasonable and usable look and feel. Follow the link to see what I'm working with for now: https://2chronicles36.org/gimp.png
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Etal wrote:
What do you not like about 2.10?

First of all --- bleak interface.
Tool icons are intuitively unclear.
In light theme you can only see grey silhouettes instead of diagrams (e.g. working with Curves).
It's impossible to install Refocus (it's not uncluded in gimp-plugin-registry).
I suppose its quite enough to hate new Gimp!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

russK wrote:
Anyone have recommendations for a package already in portage? (I like to look first before trying an overlay)

The ::guru overlay should be safe, as additions are moderated by Gentoo devs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexDmitriev wrote:
Etal wrote:
What do you not like about 2.10?

First of all --- bleak interface.
Tool icons are intuitively unclear.
In light theme you can only see grey silhouettes instead of diagrams (e.g. working with Curves).
It's impossible to install Refocus (it's not uncluded in gimp-plugin-registry).
I suppose its quite enough to hate new Gimp!


For the first two - in Preferences, you can change the theme to the system Gtk2 theme, and change the icons to "Color" or "Legacy". There's also an option to disable "Tool Groups" in the toolbox section.

I'm not familiar with the others.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexDmitriev wrote:
Etal wrote:
What do you not like about 2.10?

First of all --- bleak interface.
Tool icons are intuitively unclear.
In light theme you can only see grey silhouettes instead of diagrams (e.g. working with Curves).
It's impossible to install Refocus (it's not uncluded in gimp-plugin-registry).
I suppose its quite enough to hate new Gimp!


For the first two - in Preferences, you can change the theme to the system Gtk2 theme, and change the icons to "Color" or "Legacy". There's also an option to disable "Tool Groups" in the toolbox section.

I'm not familiar with the others.
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