Rust: Explain Some Things to Me

wswartzendruber · Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: Rust: Explain Some Things to Me

1. Rust's module system makes me want to get a hair transplant over my bald spot just so I can tear it out again. Why is "pub use" even a thing? Is there some better way I'm not seeing?

2. Why is error management kicking your collective asses so hard? "Define your own types, no wait, use error-chain...damnit wait no, you actually need to use failure...we think?" Part of what you guys seem to be getting tripped up over is backtraces. I will simply suggest that this does not belong in the error handling portion of a systems language. You should be building a debugger into the generated binaries for that. Unless...you guys really have it figured out this time?

Seeing everyone clamor over Rust makes me realize that one of two things is true:

1. Everyone else is insane, and I'm the only rational motherfucker in the room.
2. I'm the whackjob and need to be committed.
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Mardok45 · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:26 am Post subject:

Rust seems to have this persistent problem where ideas are 90% thought-out, but the last 10% that's missing is interoperability with the language. e.g. the standard Error trait is completely useless because you can't return it from a function because it doesn't implement the Sized trait. You have to pull in the failure crate so you can actually return errors. Another problem I just encountered is when using catch_unwind while calling a FFI, a panic still aborts your program.

Writing programs in Rust is like driving a car on a dirt road. You're going to be tossed around, get stuck in a ditch, have trouble getting over a hill, and have an overall bad experience. It's not even the borrow checker that's the cause of headaches; it's half-baked features.

Go is more like driving on a highway. It's smooth-sailing for the most part, but every once in a while, you'll get stuck in a 2-hour traffic jam.
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wswartzendruber · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:03 am Post subject:

wswartzendruber · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:18 pm Post subject:

Mardok45 · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:32 pm Post subject:

Because Rust is an inclusive community that listens to all ideas.
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wswartzendruber · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject:

THANK THE LORD

I was hoping this would happen. If they're half as competent at this as they were with C#, things should come out looking pretty good.
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