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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taskara wrote:
asimon, did you have any packages fail because of 2.6 headers?


No, I was lucky. Of those packages which I installed none had failed. A couple of weeks ago when I installed 2.6 headers the first time they caused several builds to fail but the situation has much improved since then.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers.. I also went 2.6 headers :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity...
1) When is the expected 2004.0 release? The original information said January, but that deadline passed over the weekend.
2) In people's opinion, how reliable is this install at this point in time? I mean assuming I start from stage1, use bootstrap 2.6 and compile everything from scratch like a complete nutbar.

The reason I ask is that the release of 2004.0 will probably coincide with my new computer being built, and guess what's going on it. ;-) Unfortunately I didn't have enough to buy an entire new computer, so I have complete downtime until the install completes to the point where I can use it. This is why I'm reluctant to try this if it's broken.

Otherwise if it's going to be a while I might just install 1.4, and then update everything later... but I always get crap lying around which probably shouldn't be there (just like /usr/lib/python2.2 on my current install is still full of crap despite every package being rebuilt for 2.3 already and having removed 2.2 from the system.)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so how close are we exactly to seeing a stable release? there have been numerous stage tarball beta releases, as well as a handful of livecd betas... how close are we until we can get a stable livecd with the 2.6 kernel? are the gentoo-sources even finished (i noticed a couple pie-sse betas)?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s1n wrote:
so how close are we exactly to seeing a stable release? there have been numerous stage tarball beta releases, as well as a handful of livecd betas... how close are we until we can get a stable livecd with the 2.6 kernel? are the gentoo-sources even finished (i noticed a couple pie-sse betas)?


around the corner I'd say - things seem pretty stable. prob ironing out a few bugs in teh livecd.. then there are 5 major architectures to build livecds and grp packages for, then there is the amd64 release which I'd say prob don't happen officially, but may be in beta form.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys - we didn't forget you :)

I was quite occupied in fulfilling all your wishes and suggestions and it seems that we have eleminated most of the bugs mentioned in here:

    o pcmcia-cs included (package needed fix)
    o linux-wlan-ng included (package needed fix)
    o nforce-networking included
    o vim on livecd (but not inside the stages since it would horribly increase the size of them)
    o penggy on livecd (to make life easier for AOL-customers :wink: )
    o missing /dev bug fixed (issue in baselayout)

At the moment I am concentrating more on the 2.4.24-kernel since the 2.6-kernel seems to make more problems. I will try to get a 2.6-kernel onto the CD, but at the moment it looks like it will be a rather trivial kernel (SMP, no pcmcia, no wlan). We will do some internal testing of the results of your and our bug-hunt. I'll keep you informed about these issues and of course leave a note when the next test-cd is released.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also wondering when the new Version 2004 finale is available (with GRP of course)?

Also, I tested the 20040128 LiveCD and when it starts it just hangs, says something about "Could not exec..."?

Well, can anyone point me out to a location of the latest "test" stages (#3)/livecd/GRP?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Catalyst is suppose to rock the world and all, but the make.conf it generates is horrid - could we maybe get the old large commented one in the tarball instead?

Also it looks to me like grub might be broken, at least it doesn't install the stage1 files in /boot but if that's an issue with the new 2004.0 setup or just a broken ebuild I dunno.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatez wrote:
Hi,

I've tried http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/x86/livecd/gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040128.iso but it doesn't recognize raid controller IT8212F :(

And for the silraid (sata raid) controller, it recognize only the single hd.

try with doscsci doataraid but nothing..

help plz. cuz i can't install gentoo in my new pc and i don't have any time to attach an secondary ide hd .. etc ..

10x a lot


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea when new GRP's will be available now that KDE 3.2 has been released?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd post my experiences up, trying the new stuff on a Sony Vaio PCG-GR214MP laptop.

I used the new LiveCD 20040128. The 2.6 kernel failed to boot but I think other people have already commented on this. 2.4 worked OK.

FS layout as follows:

/boot = ext3
/ = reiserfs

Used stage1-x86-2004-0128 and bootstrapped + emerge system, all OK supported by distcc using T-Bird + P2.

Now here's the interesting bit. I compiled 2.6.2-rc2-love4 (using genkernel) no problems, finished the last bits of configuration, and umounted all fs's and rebooted. The kernel starts to boot then come to stage 6 and immediately reboots.. Looking through the forums the only indication seems to be that I compiled the kernel for something other than the P3 that it is.. OK, I try re-compiling the kernel again (although only P3 was selected anyway). Same result..

OK, -love may be a problem, so I emerge develpment-sources and get 2.6.1. Same results again..

Hmm, I try fsck on / and it yeilds problems that only --rebuild-tree can fix, so I do this, it appears to fix stuff, but then I find that the whole filesystem is now mangled up and dumped in lost&found.

Well, I am using a spare IBM harddrive, so I run the advanced diagnostics (IBM HD Utils) which it passes. I also decide to run a low-level format on the drive incase of surface errors..

Now I try again from scratch, doing the same as before (I end up using a different mirror this time so stage1 is fine & md5sum check aswell). Anyway, in the end the same happens again. Keeps rebooting and finds a corrupt /.

Bigger Hmmm. So maybe the livecd is duff. I have successfully build Gentoo at least 5 time before using Livecd1.4. So I try this instead (still using the same stage1 version), but no same again.

The only last idea I had was that I was using reiser and something is blowing it up (even though all other sytems I've done use reiser). So I thought of using ext3 on / aswell, but at the moment I've lost 3 days, so I'm gonna take a breather (perhaps wait for the next stage release). Anyone with any ideas? I've left the fs on / mullered so I can't gather any sort of debug stuff (unless I start again), but there where no indications of problems even when I made the fs's in the first place or during the build process :?

PS: CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
as suggested here:http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

using latest livecd build available (28th) it seems that if using Linux Software Raid you need to
Code:
raidstop /dev/mdx
for each raid device, or when you reboot it can't start the array.

this may need to be added to the new documentation, and perhaps the linux software raid howto in the docs and tips section

also had one other thing....

oh yeah - I bootstrapped with
Code:
scripts/bootstrap.26


which I assume shoudl build the system with 2.6 linux kernel headers, however after fixing the raid problem and running
Code:
emerge rsync && emerge -Up world


it wants to upgrade the linux headers from 2.4.21 to 2.4.22!

I see no 2.6 linux headers emerged at all..

not sure what to do there - either the build didn't build with 2.6 headers at all, and the system's actually been built with 2.4.21, or something's wrong with portage.

not sure if I should update it or force emerge of 2.6 headers.

thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bootstrap-2.6.sh is used if you USE="nptl" with kernel-2.6. Why? When doing bootstrap, no 2.6-headers are in the system. bootstrap.sh will fail, while bootstrap-2.6.sh will take care of that and handle the situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: i'm a tad confused Reply with quote

erm

this is what i can see on my zilla:::
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040121.iso 22-Jan-2004 08:10 120M
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040121.iso.md5 22-Jan-2004 08:10 1k
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040123.iso 23-Jan-2004 15:41 59.9M
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040123.iso.md5 23-Jan-2004 15:40 1k
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040128.iso 29-Jan-2004 10:11 63.7M
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040128.iso.md5 29-Jan-2004 10:11 1k
gentoo-selinux-2004.0-i686-20040125.iso 25-Jan-2004 21:41 107M
gentoo-selinux-2004.0-i686-20040125.iso.md5 25-Jan-2004 21:41 1k
livecd-2.4.20-kde-gnome-distcc-07-15-2003.iso 15-Jul-2003 20:20 438M
livecd-2.4.20-kde-gnome-distcc-07-15-2003.md5sum 15-Jul-2003 20:15 1k
livecd-2.4.21-kde-gnome-distcc-07-15-2003.iso 15-Jul-2003 20:19 437M
livecd-2.4.21-kde-gnome-distcc-07-15-2003.md5sum 15-Jul-2003 20:19 1k
livecd-2.6_10-23-2003.iso 24-Oct-2003 20:11 71.3M
livecd-2.6_11-05-2003.iso 05-Nov-2003 03:40 73.0M
livecd-2.6_11-13-2003.iso 13-Nov-2003 16:10 79.5M
livecd-2.6_11-20-2003.iso 20-Nov-2003 12:40 75.6M
livecd-2.6_11-29-2003.iso 29-Nov-2003 09:40 75.2M
livecd-basic-x86-2003011400.iso 23-Feb-2003 01:31 41.4M


which one do i download? for stage 3 live cd???

i have to use stage 3, because i am using the linaxant driver for my wireless card so i cant help but use a stage 3..
how do i do it..?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040128.iso 29-Jan-2004 10:11 63.7M
gentoo-2004.0-x86-20040128.iso.md5 29-Jan-2004 10:11 1k


Stages are not included on these test-images. You have to download them seperately.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part 2 of my install diary..

OK, I think I may be onto something. Today I repeated the same steps as previously, but this time made root ext3 rather than reiser. I completed the build, rebooted with breath held. It booted..

Harrah, I thought, but I forgot to switch on bootsplash, so I edited, my grub.conf and booted again.. Doh.. got to stage 6 and it auto-rebooted. Same old problem again.. However, I noticed it complained about trying to unmount /tmp/initrd something or other.

Well, because I wanted to get bootsplash included, I have been using genkernel (3.0.1_beta9), so I edited the boot setup from the grub splash to not load initrd and not have that stupid root=/dev/ram0 business, and it booted normally..

Is anyone else using genkernel without issues? Could there be a problem with it creating initrd files?

PS> I don't know the problems with reiser were. I can only guess that when it auto-rebooted, it had / mounted and screwed the fs, but I would have thought reiser should have coped with that OK. :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried the 20040128 LiveCD on my dual PIII system tonight. A couple of problems:

1. dhcp does not work using the experimental (2.6) kernel. This is bad.

2. LVM does not work for either 2.4 or 2.6 kernels (looking for Device Mapper entries in /dev). This is a lot worse if you have an LVM-based setup.

Bug reports have been submitted.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not want to be a noob, but do I just follow the normal install instructions?

(There is no install instructions on the disc, correct?)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi folks,

just a quick report about the x86-release (new livecd and stages - datestamp 20040204 - will hit the mirrors soon). See the lists below.

Stages :
    >> Stages now contain a populated /dev (thanks to zhen, brad_mssw and azarah for their fixes on baselayout :) )

CD:
    >> livecd now reboots/halts perfectly (thanks brad_mssw and azarah for working on that)
    >> pcmcia-cs now included on livecd, but doesn't work (rc-script says: "module ds not found") (thank you latexer for making the ebuild work with module-init-tools)
    >> linux-wlan-ng included on livecd (thank you latexer for making the ebuild work with module-init-tools)
    >> vim on livecd
    >> dokeymap doesn't work
    >> experimental kernel (2.6.1) left off CD for now since it causes too many problems


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: :( Reply with quote

we'll have to beg for one with 2.6.x?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: :( Reply with quote

h.u.n.t.e.r wrote:
we'll have to beg for one with 2.6.x?


The problem is that there are still too many applications that aren't 2.6-aware yet. With a chance of ~70% a 2.6-kernel will be put on the cd. We left if off now to make sure that the 2.4-kernel works properly. It doesn't make sense to put a kernel on the cd that doesn't work :)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I'm sure if I beg you; you will put one online for me with reiser4 support (when stable)

sure you will :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beejay wrote:
bootstrap-2.6.sh is used if you USE="nptl" with kernel-2.6. Why? When doing bootstrap, no 2.6-headers are in the system. bootstrap.sh will fail, while bootstrap-2.6.sh will take care of that and handle the situation.


ahh ok.. so I should have build the bootstrap.26 with nptl in my use flags?

would that then have used 2.6 headers?

so does this mean it actually still build with 2.4 headers? and if so I assume it is safe to update to the later version with emerge -U world?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, and "experimental" was the only way I coudl see my intel sata drives and external usb harddrive. please don't take them away from me ;)

if u do I'll just use 28th Jan iso, but try newer stages..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, using the 2004-01-28 live CD and stage 1...

And it worked! Once I found out that I had to mount /dev, of course. Aside from that, no major issues.

It's up, it's running, it's fast, and I'm happy.

System specs:
dual Athlon MP
1GB DDR (kernel has himem enabled)
GeForce 2 MX
RAID enabled
SB Live!

I'll edit and post the compiler flags that I used.
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