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Cuong Nguyen Tux's lil' helper

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Jaglover Watchman


Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 7328 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Maitreya Guru

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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:41 am Post subject: |
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System is now based on ArchLinux and built using archiso and its dependencies
Kernel and user space programs are now fully 64 bit (dropped 32bit support)
Boot options are the ones provided by new upstream rather than old version
Graphical environment based on xorg-1.20.3 and xfce-4.12
Implemented “setkmap=xx” option on the boot command line to setup keyboard
Updated kernel to Long-Term-Supported linux-4.19.19
Updated filesystem tools: e2fsprogs-1.44.5, xfsprogs-4.19.0, btrfs-progs-4.19.1
Updated disk tools: gparted-0.33.0, lvm2-2.02.183
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Guess I'll have to fork 5.3.2 then. I wonder what made him switch. |
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mike155 Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 1731 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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This is a sad day for Gentoo!
I would like to know why they moved to Arch. |
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asturm Developer


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 7216 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Well I'd think it is a sad day for sysresccd. _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Fitzcarraldo Veteran


Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 1774 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:53 am Post subject: |
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How disappointing.
My guess is that the developers of SystemRescueCd wanted to switch to a binary distribution to facilitate building each new release, albeit a binary distribution with more flexibility and configurability than the more mainstream releases. _________________ Clevo W230SS: amd64 nvidia-drivers & xf86-video-intel.
Compal NBLB2: ~amd64 xf86-video-ati. Dual boot Win 7 Pro 64-bit.
OpenRC eudev elogind & KDE on both.
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bunder Bodhisattva

Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5885
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:31 am Post subject: |
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my understanding was that building the sysresccd was challenging... fearedbliss was using it to make zfs livecd's and when he retired he gave me some instructions to keep making them, but i found catalyst (to make gentoo livecds) much easier to comprehend. _________________
Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017 |
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axl l33t


Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 721 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly since evolved. I now have a few kernels I compiled myself, and a few netinstalls from other distros and I even made myself a new "iso" although its a pxe image for windows 7... in today technology you boot from network.
disk boot like from diskette is obsolete. boot from original cd or rewritable cd... obsolete. from dvd... obsolete. from usb drive... OBSOLETE.
we boot from network now. coz we can, and our computers can. and you can make a nice multi os menu to install any os. just need dhcp, bind and a tftp daemon.
think about it. universal network boot server. to install any os you feel like. it is easy to be done. and much cooler than any dvd live image. in fact, a nfs4 in your face demo of linux... booted from network... no disk of any sort... i done that. |
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cboldt l33t


Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I found out a hard way. I install SysRescCd on the hard drive for all machines on the LAN, to have a quick rescue environment in case I really mangle my usual work environment. The script that mounts the ISO and copies the relevant files, updates lilo.conf and so on, well that script failed spectacularly yesterday.
Now trying to figure out how to do similar with 6.0.0, if possible. The SysRescCd webpage hasn't been updated on the "install to HD" part, but the 6.0.0.iso does have some files with brief instructions. Meanwhile, 5.3.2 is there and known to work. |
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Cuong Nguyen Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 18 Jan 2018 Posts: 133
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have a customized sysresccd 5.3.2 with latest gcc 8.2 toolchain weekly updated with latest gentoo repo sync, still keep binary kernel as-is. The kernel itself inherited from fedora with aufs enabled. It amazing fast because all the excutables is 32-bit and equipped of all-kind of recovery, cloning tools like fsarchiver, partclone, partimage. I even use it for cloning Windows setup from PC to PC with fsarchiver and a bootable WinPE USB. |
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tld Veteran

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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Maitreya wrote: | Guess I'll have to fork 5.3.2 then. I wonder what made him switch. | Thanks for posting that entire quote. The 64bit-only support caught me eye immediately. I still have several 32 bit machines. Very disappointing. Having said that, I've actually been using a very archaic version of system rescue CD for some time. I just downloaded 5.3.2 after reading this. I haven't tried it as yet...does 5.3.2 support 32 bit?
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cboldt l33t


Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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5.3.2 does support 32 bit. Has 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the kernel
Code: | .rescue32: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 4.14.80-std532-i686 (root@rl-sysrcd-p11) #2 SMP Sun Nov 11 19:32:48 UTC 2018, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x9, Normal VGA |
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proteusx Apprentice


Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 258
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Systemrescuecd has gone systemd (A.K.A. "gone to the dogs").
Just tested it. It is a load of crap.
Code: | echo ">=app-admin/systemrescuecd-x86-6.0.0" >> /etc/portage/package.mask/packages |
I have been using it for years and years.
What a pity. |
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Tony0945 Advocate

Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 3311 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:50 am Post subject: |
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proteusx wrote: | Systemrescuecd has gone systemd (A.K.A. "gone to the dogs").
Just tested it. It is a load of crap. |
The snake has entered the garden. I wonder if Linux will be just IBM Windows RH by the time that I die. |
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Ant P. Watchman

Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6033
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Now that it's 64-bit-only, I guess this blind version bump (and also the package *name*) is in error… |
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Muso Veteran


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 1002 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Well, looks like I'll be keeping the last Gentoo based .iso around. I don't understand the switch to Arch at all. _________________ "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think" ~ Dorothy Parker
"It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes." ~ Senator Ted Stevens describing the Internet |
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xdarma l33t


Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 697 Location: tra veneto e friuli (italy)
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Me too, I'm disappointed by the switch to arch and systemd.
But here I see many skills and interest on a live gentoo, maybe there is a way to integrate some administration tools in the official LiveDVD?
Maybe this forum can host a section for testing, debugging and... chats. :-) _________________ proud user of faKeDE-4.7.3 |
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Amity88 Apprentice


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Third planet from the Sun
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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This sucks, I've always used it to install Gentoo. I'll probably keep using the older version for now. _________________
Ant P. wrote: | The enterprise distros sell their binaries. Canonical sells their users. |
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Naib Watchman


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5712 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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What is the motivation?
Packages too old? too complex? new blood into the project that strongly advocated arch _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king |
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Morality124 n00b


Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Naib wrote: | What is the motivation?
Packages too old? too complex? new blood into the project that strongly advocated arch |
Sometimes I get the feeling that Arch is becoming the Red Hat of rolling release distros. |
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pun_guin Apprentice

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Minus the support, of course. _________________ I already use the new Genthree. |
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Maffblaster Developer

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 65 Location: Spokane, Washington, USA
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Jaglover Watchman


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mrbassie Guru

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean swapping the word rescue with revival/revive, or would revival be the full name? |
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NTU Apprentice

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Arch Linux breaks everyday, they're all ADHD when it comes to updating things. Minutes after a new version of anything comes out, a bunch of 12 year olds jump on it and push it in right away. |
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