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Hi!
How could I exclude few packages from world update? I'm aware of --exclude option, but I'm looking for something like --exclude="packages_list_file" ? Just put packages list into file and point emerge to use that file as input for exclude option.
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fedeliallalinea
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If you create file
| your_exclude_packages_file.lst: | | category/package1 category/package2 category/package3 ... |
you can use it with emerge -uUD @world --exclude="$(cat your_exclude_packages_file.lst)".
Anyway is not a good idea exclude packages from update
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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OK, cat is an option.
What about removing a package from world file or put a package into package.mask?
It's a dev-qt/qtwebkit package ( and few packages it depends on). I only need it for running teamviewer. I do not care about qtwebkit updates. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| If you need dev-qt/qtwebkit only for teamviewer (and a few other packages), it shouldn't be in your world file. Remove it from /var/lib/portage/world. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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emerge --depclean tries to remove qtwebkit and deps if dev-qt/qtwebkit not in world file.
Will try to use package.mask |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Don't mask the package - try to find out what is wrong instead.
You say that
1) teamviewer is installed and that
2) teamviewer is in /var/lib/portage/world, and that
3) teamviewer needs qtwebengine
Right?
If that's the case, 'emerge --depclean' won't delete qtwebengine, because it knows that teamviewer needs it.
1) Which version of teamviewer is installed?
2) Is teamviewer in your world file?
3) Did you run 'emerge --update --deep --newuse @world' and 'revdep-rebuild' before you ran 'emerge --depclean'?
4) Please post the output of 'emerge --depclean -pv' |
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Blind sniper, did you use the ebuild for teamviewer or did you just install the package.
If you used the ebuild then qtwebkit should be pulled in as a dependency so no need to have it in world file.
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Till now I used teamviewer tarball downloaded from their site, just unpacked and launched binary from there.
This binary depends on qtwebkit, so I installed it separately. And since teamviewer not in the world file, I think it will be excessive to update qtwebkit regularly, only if teamviewer will require new version. I do not want to update qtwebkit to every new available version. Only when teamviewer will require it.
Spending 3 hours for qtwebkit update (with makeopt=j1) - it's a craziness. Unfortunately if I set makeopt to j5, emerge qtwebkit hangs a system, so I can't even reboot. Though I have 8Gb of RAM and there shouldn't be any problem.
Thats why I decided to minimize qtwebkit updates.
Right now I put qtwebkit into package.mask file, emerge complains about it, but at least emerge will not accidentally start qtwebkit compiling. |
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fedeliallalinea
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Why not use net-misc/teamviewer package?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| fedeliallalinea wrote: | | Why not use net-misc/teamviewer package? |
it will be the same qtwebkit update problem, so it doesn't matter how did I install teamviewer, from tarball or with ebuild. Both depends on qtwebkit.
I using tarballs for a few years now and it works for me, so I don't want to change things |
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| Blind_Sniper wrote: | | fedeliallalinea wrote: | | Why not use net-misc/teamviewer package? |
it will be the same qtwebkit update problem, so it doesn't matter how did I install teamviewer, from tarball or with ebuild. Both depends on qtwebkit.
I using tarballs for a few years now and it works for me, so I don't want to change things |
Doing it that way is fine, but make it known to the rest of the people trying to help you that you're bypassing the package install system.
Since you're installing the tarball, then yes you need qtwebkit in the world file. 
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| Blind_Sniper wrote: | it will be the same qtwebkit update problem, so it doesn't matter how did I install teamviewer, from tarball or with ebuild. Both depends on qtwebkit.
I using tarballs for a few years now and it works for me, so I don't want to change things |
No it's not the same, because with ebuild qtwebkit isn't added to world file then you can insert a entry in package.mask like
| Code: | | >dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.212.0_pre20180120 |
and next world update qtwebkit is not added as update
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| What about creating a meta ebuild, or maybe you can use a set, though I'm at this moment unsure if you can set version in a set. |
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| Blind_Sniper wrote: | | I do not care about qtwebkit updates. |
You should. For security reasons. Especially with a software made to control your system through internet.
You don't need to wait in front of your screen when you update your system. You can do it by night, when you sleep. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Blind_Sniper wrote: | | Till now I used teamviewer tarball downloaded from their site, just unpacked and launched binary from there. |
Could you elaborate on this? To what directory are you unpacking Teamviewer? |
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Seriously people, the blind_sniper asks about a simple question, and you start wanting to change how he wants the system. If he already said he doesn't care about the version and he wants to use a tarball, then help with that.
And again @Hu another question from you that doesn't make sense. Either help or stay away. How can you not understand, unpacking tarball, and run binary.  |
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| KatsuoRyuu wrote: | | Seriously people, the blind_sniper asks about a simple question, and you start wanting to change how he wants the system. If he already said he doesn't care about the version and he wants to use a tarball, then help with that. |
If it were a version problem, I'd agree with you. But latest version is in portage then I don't see why not use official package where there is a solution for not update all version of qtwebkit (with possible security issue).
If he want use tar also in this case has a soluzion use the file with cat in --exclude emerge option.
It seems to me that we have helped him by proposing other solutions as well.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| fedeliallalinea wrote: |
| Code: | | >dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.212.0_pre20180120 |
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Seems it's a most suitable solution, adding package version to the package name suppresses warning message.
Thanks for the hint!
As for installing teamviewer from repo: I prefer to use tarball. Downloading it, unpacking in my home dir and running teamviewer binary.
Teamviewer warns me if there is an update, so I always using the last version. It suits me.
Thanks all for your efforts. |
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@Blind_sniper sorry im a bit late to the game, needed to get to my system, to confirm the config.
from my experience, you can create a "set" in /etc/portage/sets like
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mkdir -p /etc/portage/sets/
cat << EOF > /etc/portage/sets/teamviewertarball
dev-qt/qtcore:5
dev-qt/qtdbus:5
dev-qt/qtdeclarative:5
dev-qt/qtgui:5
dev-qt/qtnetwork:5
dev-qt/qtquickcontrols:5
=dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.212.0_pre20180120
dev-qt/qtwidgets:5
dev-qt/qtx11extras:5
sys-apps/dbus
EOF
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This should create a set for you with a forced version of qtwebkit.
then you can install the dependencies
(I added the dependencies for the common teamviewer package but if your only concern is qtwebkit, then remove the others)
by running this:
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emerge -av @teamviewertarball
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its not super much what sets are meant for, but from my experience it should do the trick.
(anybody feel free to correct me if im wrong) |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| KatsuoRyuu wrote: | Seriously people, the blind_sniper asks about a simple question, and you start wanting to change how he wants the system. If he already said he doesn't care about the version and he wants to use a tarball, then help with that.
And again @Hu another question from you that doesn't make sense. Either help or stay away. How can you not understand, unpacking tarball, and run binary. |
It's common for people to bring us X-Y problems. When that happens, diagnosing their real issue and fixing that issue is better than helping them with their perceived solution. In this case, I asked my question because unpacking unmanaged tarballs systemwide can, if done incorrectly, overwrite system files and create a bigger mess.
I understand exactly how to unpack an unsigned and unauthenticated tarball, then run something from it. I also understand that this is more often than not the wrong solution.
In my opinion, proper system security policy includes setting noexec everywhere possible. On such a system, running a tarball out of the user's home directory is impossible. Therefore, I sought to understand whether Blind_Sniper had unpacked the tarball in an unsafe way or merely had an inadequate system security policy. Happily, the system is insecure, but system files have not been overwritten. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| KatsuoRyuu wrote: | | Seriously people, the blind_sniper asks about a simple question, and you start wanting to change how he wants the system. If he already said he doesn't care about the version and he wants to use a tarball, then help with that. |
Actually it wasn't simple at all.
He did indeed ask a simple question about exclusion ... which was answered simply.
Then he asked about removing something from world file (without an adequate explanation that he was using a tarball instead of portage but needed portage dependencies) which is fine in and of itself. But along with that he got erroneous advice. Among which is the standard advice of "why not use the portage package".
Here's the simple question he could have asked.
"I run teamviewer from a tarball not portage, but use the other dependencies for teamviewer from portage, is there a way to exclude a set of files from updating and do those files need to be in the world file".
Proper questions usually get succinct and simple answers.
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