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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

because:

  • awesome community
  • customiziation (USE features)
  • works as expected
  • package dependencies
  • control in general
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because i want to learn very well linux system and with Gentoo i'm learning it very well... moreover Gentoo is very suitable and fast in my old computer from 2006 (i installed it in a removable disk of 2004 because my internal HD is damaged)... and the other reasons:

- very friendly community that helps you
- operating system very stable
- configuration capabilities of system
- personal satisfaction in knowing use

It fascinate me and I would like in the future to contribute to its development, although I know it will be almost impossible :D
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxxx,

Maxxx wrote:
I would like in the future to contribute to its development, although I know it will be almost impossible

You probably have too narrow a definition of development then.

Development is not only writing ebuilds and/or code.
It includes documentation, the wiki, posting on the forums and so on.
As I write, you have a post count of 70. I suspect others will have already followed some of your threads. That means you have already helped them.
That's a part of development too.

Keep in mind that "an expert" is someone who knows more that you do.
That means you are already an expert to users who are following in your footsteps.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Development is not only writing ebuilds and/or code. It includes documentation, the wiki, posting on the forums and so on.

NeddySeagoon ... agreed, though not everyone is granted the moniker, or takes those contributions as having a similar weight.

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Keep in mind that "an expert" is someone who knows more that you do. That means you are already an expert to users who are following in your footsteps.

It's derived from the latin expertus, past participle of experiri, to try. I don't think, as you suggest, everyone is an expert to someone, it's more an emergent property of communities/practice, and as such isn't localised. If you understand (to some degree) the term "expert" then at some point past you've rubbed shoulders with a group of language wielding primates, and tried to acquire the meaning of their expression, having done so you're probably one of them now, who knows ;)

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Neddy!!!!! Glad to hear you

Thanks for your consideration... I already knew that i can contributing in other things rather than writing or develop ebuilds, but for now i'm not able to respond to most questions of forum. I always look at them.
Now i'm reading a book which talks about Linux in general: - kernel space, user space, system call, daemon, bash, network, etc... now i'm at the point in which talk about Bash shell and its commands.
This arguments aren't about writing programs, although I would love to learn this but i haven't more time for do it.
For now I set myself to learn well linux work, then will see... a step at a time.
I just hope to always have this curiosity and this desire.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

however with my gentoo I have avoided buying a new pc, I just bought a new monitor 22 inches and it work at 1920 x 1080 resolution and i'm very happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxxx wrote:

- very friendly community that helps you


imho Gentoo's greatest asset.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Gentoo because of
- Profile
- USE Flags
- OpenRC (I feel Gentoo is more reliable because it has its own init system, OpenRC than the others with non-Systemd without their own init system)
- Stability
- Performance
and of course
- Satisfaction
- Customization
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have moved to Gentoo last week and I am extremely satisfied from it.

One of my main motivations toward it was to... "finally get Gentoo!" :) About 10 years ago I got my hands on Linux for a first time. I was playing around with Slackware, Fedora Core, SuSE and others, trying to find the one for me. I heard about this distro that allows maximal configuration of the system. I was very curious about it and I decided give it a try. Since I was a Linux beginner that time, things didn't go very well. Stage 3 install wasn't in my plans at all as I had no Internet connection at home to access the handbook, so I went with CD version. I got it setup but I ran into several issues with hardware and compilation was taking forever (despite my good-for-those-times 1.8GHz Celeron CPU). Ultimately I ended on Fedora Core (and then Fedora) for a few years until I switched to Mint.

During that time, Gentoo was coming back to my mind from time to time. I think I tried to setup it a few times thorough the years but hardware issues were always killing all my motivation. When I finally got Internet access at home I read more about it, learned that it is a system for advanced Linux users and I said to myself that with my actual skills Gentoo is not for me.

Over the years I was using Linux on my personal computer and I was getting more and more experience. I actually turned into Linux-lover and even my wife ended up with Mint on her laptop (she loves it!). Through the last 3 years I started to help and then to manage on my own a bunch of servers at my company, so I quickly gained more deeper knowledge about Linux (as well as FreeBSD). Some time ago Gentoo came back to my mind again. With my actual skill-set I have decided that I must give it a try. At first I was thinking about setting it up on a VM, but over time I noticed that I never can find time for it... so a week ago on Saturday totally spontaneously I decided to setup Gentoo on my laptop that I use for work. I bought a new HDD, connected it to my laptop through SATA-USB cable, and I began setup using stage 3 tarball from my Mint :)

I thought that getting Gentoo setup is going to be a big challenge, but... well, it turned out everything went pretty easily. While I ran into many problems during system configuration there was nothing that would not be described in the Gentoo handbook or the wiki. Getting my laptop production-ready actually took two days without a sleep, but it was an awesome journey through the system and it was totally worth it :)

The answer to "why are you using Gentoo" question is... because I love it! :) Maybe it's way too premature to stay this after just a week relationship, but this is really what I emotionally feel about this OS.

The things that put me in love are:
- ability to learn so many new things about the way Linux works. getting my computer production-ready already taught me enormous amount of knowledge
- ability to configure everything exactly the way I want, not the way a distribution packager wanted to
- USE flags! The ability to get software compiled without unnecessary elements is really great. During setup I got a little too obsessive and started "equery uses" on a bunch of packages I was going to install :)
- performance. getting things configured and compiled the way I want is really stunning. my gentoo boots in 12 seconds and I still believe it could get faster if I would configure kernel with more focus.
- portage. wow, I was really stunned when I learned and used it. and the amount of packages available as well as their recent versions is amazing.
- documentation. The Handbook is beautifully and clearly written. Soon I discovered Wiki pages and amounts of information found was simply crazy.I found answers to all my questions there.
- community. I have found Gentoo has very lively and nice community. I have just created my account to become a part of it :)

There will be certainly more and more things that could be added to that list as I will discover Gentoo more. Those things are things that I experienced so far during my one-week adventure.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamScheller wrote:
I have moved to Gentoo last week and I am extremely satisfied from it.
...

There will be certainly more and more things that could be added to that list as I will discover Gentoo more. Those things are things that I experienced so far during my one-week adventure.


Welcome to the community, Adam!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamScheller,

Welcome back. We knew you would come one day :)

All that keep us going is the thought of just one more emerge.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:31 am    Post subject: Why do you use Gentoo? Did you switch from something else? Reply with quote

I've recently gone full Gentoo with an old work laptop and even more recently with my desktop. Before I switched I was a fan of Debian because of the plug-and-play factor and the niceness of apt, but the 'choices' appeal of Gentoo really motivated me to learn the ins and outs. I learned a lot about how to use a linux system and a CLI from installing and troubleshooting, and now I think I've found home.
Why did you decide to go Gentoo? Do you use a mixture of distros? I know that 'choices' is the obvious answer, but what was the real impetus behind opening the handbook for the very first time?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merged above post. @Longcast, welcome to Gentoo! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Why do you use Gentoo? Did you switch from something els Reply with quote

Longcast wrote:
now I think I've found home.


I know exactly what you mean. I went almost directly from Windows 2000 to Gentoo, after a short period of distro hopping.

I'm approaching my 15th anniversary with Gentoo on the desktop; the oldest mail I've saved is from 27 December 2003, but I know that I was up and running a few weeks before. I started like you, a few months earlier, with an experimental installation on an old laptop. My first installation from Stage 1 (absolute scratch level that we used back then) to a working KDE desktop took me about a fortnight, and it was a thrill :D

These days, I'm running my Gentoo on a big, fat box with 32 GB RAM and an ocean of disk space:

Code:
balapapa ~ # ./stats
on. 28. nov. 13:40:24 +0100 2018
up 19 hours, 58 minutes

/dev/sdc1       234G   36G  186G  17% /
/dev/md5        8,2T  1,7T  6,1T  22% /home

Available kernel symlink targets:
  [1]   linux-4.19.0-gentoo
  [2]   linux-4.19.4-gentoo *

 _________________________________________
/ Linux balapapa 4.19.4-gentoo #1 SMP Sat \
| Nov 24 08:57:26 CET 2018 x86_64         |
| Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @        |
\ 4.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux          /
 -----------------------------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do I use Gentoo? That is like asking "Why do you use a hand-painted, kiln-fired purplish ceramic bowl that you made yourself which could break instead of a generic durable plastic one straight from the factory?"

For me, Gentoo is that hand-made bowl. No, I did not make the kiln, or tools like sculpting knives, but I used those tools to make what I wanted. Gentoo is the only OS I have ever used that gives me a feeling of satisfaction that "I made this, my own personal version."

I suppose I could use the default Windows, or other Linux versions, and I have before: Fedora, OpenSuse, CentOS, Mandrake (showing my age here); Red Hat, Debian, Mint (Ireland!) and maybe some others. I could also use a BSD (I do use OpenBSD for one computer) or join the 'Cult of Steve' and use an Apple/Mac: all of them are capable of meeting my computing needs for the things I use a computer for, so It basically comes down to taste, what I enjoy and like the best.

If I ran a server farm, or a web server facing the hostile internet, my computing needs would require more than just taste and personal preference to evaluate the best option, but since all I basically use a computer for is to run my mouth on forums like this one, check email, do online banking & shopping, etc., pretty much any OS will accomplish this. Some may want to argue vehemently which is the best OS or version of Linux to do these ordinary things but that battle is not for me and not a hill I will die upon because it is not important to get into micro-calculus computations to declare victory concerning the best OS to use.

As someone mentioned earlier, once trying Gentoo I felt at home. It is one of those things that when you encounter it, you say "Yes, this is me, this is what I want."

Many people tried Gentoo and they made it quite clear in numerous whining screeds that they HATE it, howling and moaning about USE flags and configuration files and compile times and so forth and so on. Gentoo was not to their taste so they went to something more their style like Ubuntu, which appears to be the most painless version of Linux to use, as painless as Windows: press the button and the OS holds your hand and "helps" you and asks you questions to make your computing experience a pampered, warm & fuzzy thing to do with no need to worry your sweet little brain over CPU architecture or file system type: Mommy will do all that for you.

And that is fine! Most people seem to want that, to use a computer without having to mess under the hood with the Operating System.

I enjoy using Gentoo, especially because it is a rolling release OS so I am always as up to date as I want to be. Unless I do something boneheaded (usually from lack of experience) I rarely have to reinstall. Even compiling the kernel which was my biggest source of bitching about Gentoo, I have now learned to upgrade the kernel about as easily as changing my underwear. It takes some time but not that much really, and I actually enjoy doing this manual stuff. Again, if I had a server farm of several thousand computers, I probably would not be using Gentoo unless I had some serious automation going on.

So that's it, really. I use Gentoo out of personal preference. I also admit that I have a sense of elitism, snickering that I can use Gentoo and have been doing so for years whereas many others gave up and went away crying butthurt because it was too hard, kind of like reading the novel "Ulysses" by James Joyce which is a slog to read but having read it, there is a perverse sense of pride that you were able to do what most people just could not do.

I would say Gentoo is the Ulysses of the computing world: most people have not used it, and those that tried gave up in disgust, but there are a certain few who celebrate it like on Bloomsday.

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uname -r    4.14.83-gentoo
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Why do you use Gentoo? Did you switch from something els Reply with quote

leifbk wrote:
Longcast wrote:
now I think I've found home.


I know exactly what you mean. I went almost directly from Windows 2000 to Gentoo, after a short period of distro hopping.

I'm approaching my 15th anniversary with Gentoo on the desktop; the oldest mail I've saved is from 27 December 2003, but I know that I was up and running a few weeks before. I started like you, a few months earlier, with an experimental installation on an old laptop. My first installation from Stage 1 (absolute scratch level that we used back then) to a working KDE desktop took me about a fortnight, and it was a thrill :D

These days, I'm running my Gentoo on a big, fat box with 32 GB RAM and an ocean of disk space:

Code:
balapapa ~ # ./stats
on. 28. nov. 13:40:24 +0100 2018
up 19 hours, 58 minutes

/dev/sdc1       234G   36G  186G  17% /
/dev/md5        8,2T  1,7T  6,1T  22% /home

Available kernel symlink targets:
  [1]   linux-4.19.0-gentoo
  [2]   linux-4.19.4-gentoo *

 _________________________________________
/ Linux balapapa 4.19.4-gentoo #1 SMP Sat \
| Nov 24 08:57:26 CET 2018 x86_64         |
| Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @        |
\ 4.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux          /
 -----------------------------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||



Have you tried inxi? It's really thorough.

emerge inxi then run :

Code:
inxi -Fxxxz


Code:
System:    Host: otherness Kernel: 4.19.5-gentoo x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 8.2.0 Desktop: i3 4.16 dm: N/A
           Distro: Gentoo Base System release 2.6
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 PLUS v: Rev X.0x serial: N/A
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0501 date: 04/23/2015
CPU:       8 core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) arch: Bulldozer rev.0 cache: 16384 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 60683
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 2578 MHz 2: 1676 MHz 3: 3018 MHz 4: 1731 MHz 5: 1778 MHz
           6: 2198 MHz 7: 2830 MHz 8: 1750 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1402
           Display Server: X.org 1.20.3 driver: nvidia tty size: 283x60
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Card-2 NVIDIA GM206 High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fba
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.19.5-gentoo
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0030
           IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 6001.2GB (18.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WDBNCE5000PN size: 500.1GB serial: <filter>
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB serial: <filter>
           ID-3: /dev/sdd model: WDC_WDBNCE5000PN size: 500.1GB serial: <filter>
           ID-4: /dev/sdc model: ST4000DM004 size: 4000.8GB serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 457G used: 34G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/root
           ID-2: /home size: 458G used: 151G (35%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdd1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.53GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: 30.0C gpu: 0.0:38C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1424 fan-2: 1273 fan-3: 546
Info:      Processes: 171 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 609.1/32071.0MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 rc: OpenRC v: 0.39.2 runlevel: default default: 3 Gcc sys: 8.2.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.6.2 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.3.56

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Why do you use Gentoo? Did you switch from something els Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
Have you tried inxi? It's really thorough.

emerge inxi then run :

Code:
inxi -Fxxxz


Code:
System:    Host: otherness Kernel: 4.19.5-gentoo x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 8.2.0 Desktop: i3 4.16 dm: N/A
           Distro: Gentoo Base System release 2.6
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 PLUS v: Rev X.0x serial: N/A
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0501 date: 04/23/2015
CPU:       8 core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) arch: Bulldozer rev.0 cache: 16384 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 60683
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 2578 MHz 2: 1676 MHz 3: 3018 MHz 4: 1731 MHz 5: 1778 MHz
           6: 2198 MHz 7: 2830 MHz 8: 1750 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1402
           Display Server: X.org 1.20.3 driver: nvidia tty size: 283x60
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Card-2 NVIDIA GM206 High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fba
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.19.5-gentoo
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0030
           IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 6001.2GB (18.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WDBNCE5000PN size: 500.1GB serial: <filter>
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB serial: <filter>
           ID-3: /dev/sdd model: WDC_WDBNCE5000PN size: 500.1GB serial: <filter>
           ID-4: /dev/sdc model: ST4000DM004 size: 4000.8GB serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 457G used: 34G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/root
           ID-2: /home size: 458G used: 151G (35%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdd1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.53GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: 30.0C gpu: 0.0:38C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1424 fan-2: 1273 fan-3: 546
Info:      Processes: 171 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 609.1/32071.0MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 rc: OpenRC v: 0.39.2 runlevel: default default: 3 Gcc sys: 8.2.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.6.2 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.3.56


Thanks.

Code:
System:    Host: balapapa Kernel: 4.19.4-gentoo x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 8.2.0
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.4 (Qt 5.11.2) dm: sddm,sddm Distro: Gentoo Base System release 2.6
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: MAXIMUS VIII RANGER v: Rev 1.xx serial: N/A
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 1302 date: 12/11/2015
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-6700K (-MT-MCP-) arch: Skylake-S rev.3 cache: 8192 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 32064
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/4200 MHz 1: 4200 MHz 2: 4200 MHz 3: 4200 MHz 4: 4200 MHz 5: 4200 MHz
           6: 4200 MHz 7: 4200 MHz 8: 4200 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel HD Graphics 530 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1912
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.3 ) driver: modesetting Resolution: 2560x1440@59.95hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.0-rc4 (compat-v: 3.0) Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a170
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.19.4-gentoo
Network:   Card: Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15b8
           IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 14514.9GB (13.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD30EFRX size: 3000.6GB serial: <filter>
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD20EURS size: 2000.4GB serial: <filter>
           ID-3: /dev/sdd model: WDC_WD30EFRX size: 3000.6GB serial: <filter>
           ID-4: /dev/sde model: WDC_WD30EFRX size: 3000.6GB serial: <filter>
           ID-5: /dev/sdc model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 256.1GB serial: <filter>
           ID-6: /dev/sdg model: WDC_WD30EFRX size: 3000.6GB serial: <filter>
           ID-7: /dev/sdf model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 256.1GB serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 234G used: 36G (17%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc1
           ID-2: /home size: 8.2T used: 1.8T (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/md5
RAID:      System: supported: raid0 raid1 raid6 raid5 raid4 raid10 linear
           Device-1: /dev/md5 - active components: online: sde1[2] sdb1[0] sdg1[4] sdd1[1]
           Info: raid: 5 report: 4/4 UUUU blocks: 8790091776 chunk size: 512k bitmap: true super blocks: 1.2 algorithm: 2
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 280 Uptime: 3 days Memory: 5192.8/31992.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 rc: OpenRC v: 0.39.2 runlevel: default default: 3 Gcc sys: 8.2.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.231 running in konsole) inxi: 2.3.56


It's a nice hw dump, which I've actually been looking for, but it says too little about the configuration. This little script gives me exactly what I generally want to know after a sync and update:

Code:
balapapa ~ # cat stats
#! /bin/sh

date
uptime -p
echo
df -h | grep ^/dev
echo
eselect kernel list
echo
uname -a | cowsay
echo

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi people.
This is my first post here and the topic seems to fit for a hello post.

I've been a debian user since ~2004 and with debian moving to systemd needed to look for an alternative. Since I've always been using pretty much outdated hardware, one of my goals as a debian user was to have a lightweight system for everyday user/lamerish needs, i.e. browsing, office, email, music. I've known gentoo back then but never bothered to understand how exactly it worked, I just knew that "everything's compiled from source".

Now I've been using gentoo for some ~5 years iirc. The machine that I type on right now is actually my first gentoo installation (others followed on different machines) and apart from some emerge conflicts (which turned out more or less educational) everything is up and running rock stable ever since.
I wanted to avoid systemd not necessarily from a technical or political perspective, but more because I really didn't want to re-learn stuff that I had slowly figured out with SysV over years ;).
Now that I've come to learn about openrc, portage and USE, I feel perfectly at home on my gentoo boxes. Actually, as I've been working somewhat more on my computer the last couple of months, I start feeling so good about gentoo and openrc that I wish I could contribute. For selfish reasons, of course. I pray that gentoo will be around for decades to come and I am really, deeply thankful for having the possibility to work with a system that can be configured to run smoothly on my ancient laptops and boxes. And of course, on a biased and onfounded opinion I'd like to stay away from poetteringware as long as possible.

So, my initial reasons:
- no systemd
- lightweight configuration possible

meanwhile:
- coherent system thanks to global use flags
- came to find that portage is a wonderful package manager
- feel that my configuration over time evolves more and more into exactly what I want. Kind of "made myself a(t) home" more than ever. The more stuff I tweak to my liking, the more "personally bonded" to the system I become ;).
[edit] - another one: getting "in conctact" with the actual software sources. Gave me an insight into how many people out there are coding on small, medium and large projects in different constellations from "corporation" style mozilla foundation to guys like the moc (music on console) dev doing stuff for fun at home. I didn't have that sense for the FOSS ecosystem when I was using debian. It felt more like "that's all debian" to me. Made me appreciate the effort of those people and makes me happy to see how many good folks are around all over the world.

Cheers to everyone here and massive thanks to everyone devoting time and energy to gentoo. I feel the need to say that I highly appreciate it.

Now that I've registered, I guess I'll be posting some questions, soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a day goes by wrote:
Like, probably, many new users these days...

man, I knew that I had registered here. Couldn't for the hell of it remember the user name, so I couldn't reset the password. Anyway, glad to be back :oops:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Why do you use Gentoo Reply with quote

ChrisWhite wrote:
post your reason here. Detailed or not.


I initially wanted to see what else is there - and now, one year later, the time I spent to configure, compile and (sort of) understand Gentoo has become so much that moving away to a less time-consuming distribution (= back to Void) would feel like a huge mistake. :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 2019 so I'll bring up another reason: Gentoo is becoming the more energy-efficient option by an order of magnitude.

How often do you do an emerge -u @world? About once a week sounds right.

Now consider that every time you have to navigate a web browser to a webapp, or open webapps disguised as desktop programs… it fires up a javascript compiler! And it does that for every single page view. And then that usually churns through *megabytes* of minified code — not to mention the process of generating that compressed form usually involves hundreds of megabytes of javascript in itself. $Deity have mercy on you and your CPU fan if you don't use an ad blocker.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd moved my main desktop machine to Calculate linux over the summer as I was on mobile internet and it was becoming painful to keep Gentoo up to date. Since moving the machine back to Gentoo about 4 months ago things have been much smoother. I went back to keeping things default where reasonable, running a mostly stable system and sometimes spliting up emerges, updating @system first and then @world later.

I may return to ~amd64 at some point but the pace of change on stable is nice. Running with emerge -qv makes portage much nicer to keep an eye on too.

The community is wonderful here and makes a big difference. There seems to be a much better atmosphere for helping those with strange setups and odd ways of doing things than I've seen in other places.

I got my first linux install which made me happy as an all round desktop with Arch around 2012 as it switched to systemd but there was breakage, the community had some very sharp edges and I ended up compiling a fair amount of stuff from source.

* The main repos have most of what I want.

* Portage is awesome, was delighted to find I could just drop patches into a folder and it would apply them.

* OpenRC suits me better than systemd or runit at the moment, very glad Alpine are using it too for a binary option.
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* The forums are pretty relaxed and very helpful.

* The £300 PC I built in 2013 when I got annoyed with Apple and sold my iMac still makes me smile.

* march=native seems like an easy switch to flick for a system tailored to my wee chip.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- No Systemd
- Base installation is truly a base instalation, no uneeded preinstalled software, if I need a program I just install it.
- Customisation
- USE Flags
- Every installed package works as expected, thanks to USE flags
- The community
- Source-based > Binary-based
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*control
*wanting to have a more hands on approach so I can learn the system better
*openrc
*rolling
*portage is amazing
I'm kinda new, I installed gentoo a few months back and while it was a bit overwhelming at start i'm having a great time!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Gentoo because it did not hide the complexity. Yes i did not have the time to code or read every line before compilation. But with Gentoo you will get the impression to disassembly the whole machine if something is broken or behave unexpected.

That's what i love it. Its like i car you disassembly fully and rebuild Everything. This is a great feeling.

At Computer Science there is more. And yes its just a feeling you never made a compiler or know how or why to write a Kernel or some build chain or booster library.

But that is not the point. The Point is you could do this if you want to throw much time and interest on that kind. And that's why Gentoo is so awesome.
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