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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:17 pm    Post subject: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 Reply with quote

Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 Reply with quote

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Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn]


Because there is no real reason to use a live DVD to install Gentoo. The minimal install CD is the standard install iso.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sagsaw,

Welcome to Gentoo.

The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it. You are not supposed to install its contents to a HDD.

To install Gentoo, you need only a few tools. Almost any Linux will do.
A 64 bit install requires a 64 bit kernel.
An EFI install requires the ability to boot in EFI mode to write the EFIvars.

The Gentoo installer is you.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it.

It would be nice to have an updated Gentoo DVD demonstrator that uses KDE Plasma 5 rather than KDE 4.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitzcarraldo,

The liveDVD is a one man project and I've not seen that one man on IRC for a while.

I do know that the liveDVD is built with catalyst, as is the minimal. It 'just' uses different spec files.
I'm not sure if its all in a public repo or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
sagsaw,

Welcome to Gentoo.

The DVD is intended to let you test Gentoo without installing it. You are not supposed to install its contents to a HDD.

To install Gentoo, you need only a few tools. Almost any Linux will do.
A 64 bit install requires a 64 bit kernel.
An EFI install requires the ability to boot in EFI mode to write the EFIvars.

The Gentoo installer is you.


Thank you.

So is there a standar kernel or even that will have to be compiled by scratch?

Also is their support for VIA processors and VX900 chipset and the 2D n 3D graphics?

Can I be able to build a live DVD with a generic kernel or a GENTOO BASED LIVE DISTRO?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sagsaw,

Idle in #gentoo-ten on freenode. Its quiet there so you need to be there 24/7 but thats where the LiveDVD expertise is.
Also #gentoo-releng may be able to help with more general questions.

Yes, you can repoduce the LiveCD LiveDVD work but I don't know how.
You can cross compile for VIA processors. I don't know the VX900 chipset, so can't comment.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
Fitzcarraldo,

The liveDVD is a one man project and I've not seen that one man on IRC for a while.

I do know that the liveDVD is built with catalyst, as is the minimal. It 'just' uses different spec files.
I'm not sure if its all in a public repo or not.


https://github.com/gentoo/releng/tree/master/releases/weekly/specs/amd64

see livedvd-stage[1|2].spec :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bunder,

I don't think that's the liveDVD that gets discussed in #gentoo-ten
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a damned shame the LiveDVD is so old. That's all. G'night.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Gentoo Hybrid DVD 2016 but Minimal 2019 Reply with quote

sagsaw wrote:
Why is the Gentoo Hybrid DVD old built in 2016 but Minimal is updated built in 2019?[/gwn]


Think I get the why .. just tried installing from minimal cd and it just crashed .. discovered it was 2020. Thought I would look for the "go to" from 2016 when things .. Only discovered it was live dvd after I downloaded. Bring back the minimal stables. Can't say I'm impressed with the discarding of old stuff in portage tree either. git doesn't allow to get packages from old portage trees and some stuff begun go missing. Be careful to just discard everything.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k9dog,

The minimals are auto built about weekly or so for amd64. Other arches vary.

All the old ebuild thats were ever is CVS are still available on line. Either from git or before the git migration, from https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi
The hard bit is getting old source code.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did a test install of Gentoo Xfce on a new box using Gentoo based openrc Calculate Linux instead of Gentoo Install.iso and SystemRescueCd. Worked very well.
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