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liquidvel
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 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: No soundcard on Thinkpad X250 |
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Hello,
im new to gentoo, but all is running so far besides the sound.
I'm running a Thinkpad X250 and have no audio.
I even cannot find a soundcard. All I did so far was installing media-sound/alsa-utils.
| Code: | > lscpi -v | grep -A4 -i "audio"
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Lenovo Broadwell-U Audio Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
Memory at f1230000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
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00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 44
Memory at f1234000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> sudo aplay -L
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
> sudo aplay -l
aplay: device_list:272: no soundcards found...
> find /lib/modules -iname *snd*
zsh: no matches found: *snd*
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I did not configure the kernel like here, because I dont know which driver too choose in
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<*> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture --->
[*] PCI sound devices --->
Select the driver for your audio controller.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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liquidvel,
Welcome to Gentoo.
You have two sound cards. Both need snd_hda_intel for the PCI end but we don't know which codecs you need.
Building them all is harmless.
| Code: | Thats │ │ [*] PCI sound devices ---> │ │
│ │ HD-Audio ---> |
and in the HD-Audio ---> menu
| Code: | │ │ <M> HD Audio PCI │ │
│ │ [*] Build hwdep interface for HD-audio driver │ │
│ │ [ ] Allow dynamic codec reconfiguration │ │
│ │ [ ] Support digital beep via input layer │ │
│ │ [ ] Support initialization patch loading for HD-audio │ │
│ │ <M> Build Realtek HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build Analog Device HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build IDT/Sigmatel HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build VIA HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build HDMI/DisplayPort HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ < > Build Cirrus Logic codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build Conexant HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ < > Build Creative CA0110-IBG codec support │ │
│ │ < > Build Creative CA0132 codec support │ │
│ │ <M> Build C-Media HD-audio codec support │ │
│ │ < > Build Silicon Labs 3054 HD-modem codec support │ │
│ │ -M- Enable generic HD-audio codec parser |
Once you rebuild your kernel and reboot, you should find that /dev/snd is populated.
That's only the start. As you have two sound cards, the system will default to using the one discovered first. That will be the one at PCI address 00:03.0.
That may not be what you want, but after andshows you the controls on each card, we can sort out which is which.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
but "PCI sound devices" has also an asterisk. I dont have any devices selected in its list yet because I dont know which one. What do I have to select here? The codecs refer to "HD Audio" and not to "PCI sound devices", don't they. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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liquidvel,
HD-Audio is enabled when you enable PCI sound devices, you do not need anything selected there. Selecting correct HD-Audio module is easyest if you have a live CD which can handle your sound. Example:
| Code: | $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
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Now I can select correct module for my codec.
| Code: | CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK:
Say Y or M here to include Realtek HD-audio codec support in
snd-hda-intel driver, such as ALC880. |
Or you can just enable all of them as modules and see which one works.
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liquidvel,
Until recently, HD-Audio was inside the PCI sound devices menu.
It still has to be selected or HD-Audio is hidden but you do not need anything inside the PCI sound devices menu.
This is just an example of the kernel configuration menu system being rearranged.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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@NeddySeagoon: So i rebuild the kernel with all the modules in you post marked as <M>.
| Code: | sudo make && sudo modules_install
sudo make install
reboot |
If I go to the menuconfig again all codecs are unselected again? Where the modules installed anyway?
Also aplay -l still gives me no result.
I then booted with USB, here the alsamixer command works.
| Code: | cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec
Codec: Realtek ALC3232
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Can I just compile the Realtek module into the kernel? |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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So this time I've saved the kernel config correctly and rebuild the kernel.
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~ find /lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/ -type f
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.alias.bin
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.symbols
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.order
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.builtin.bin
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.softdep
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.devname
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.dep.bin
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/fs/efivarfs/efivarfs.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-via.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-generic.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-analog.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-idt.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-hdmi.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-conexant.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-realtek.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-cmedia.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_nat.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_addrtype.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_nat_sip.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_LOG.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_nat_ftp.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_nat_irc.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_log_common.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_nat.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_mark.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_log_arp.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_nat_masquerade_ipv4.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_log_ipv4.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/nf_nat_ipv4.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/nf_log_ipv6.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/iwlwifi.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/mvm/iwlmvm.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/kernel/drivers/thermal/x86_pkg_temp_thermal.ko
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.dep
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.alias
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.builtin
/lib/modules/4.14.83-gentoo/modules.symbols.bin
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When I enter modprobe and press TAB to auto-complete I can only select the snd-hda-codec-generic or -realtek.
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~ lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_hda_codec_realtek 81920 0
snd_hda_codec_generic 73728 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
iwlmvm 311296 0
iwlwifi 258048 1 iwlmvm
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
efivarfs 16384 1
~ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 1 Dec 10 22:07 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 Dec 10 22:07 timer
~ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:272: no soundcards found...
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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liquidvel,
Make friends with wgetpaste and use it to put your dmesg onto a pastebin site.
Tell us the URL so we can find it.
Its far to big to fit into a post.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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liquidvel,
It says | Code: | [ 2.097030] ALSA device list:
[ 2.099602] No soundcards found. |
but I was hoping for some hints as to why not. There are none.
Lets try some analysis.
Can you pastebin your kernel .config file please?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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What does "lspci -nnk" show?
You can just pull out the piece that shows audio
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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liquidvel,
You will probably need | Code: | | # CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set |
if you want HDMI sound ever.
These warnings are new to me | Code: | #
# Set to Y if you want auto-loading the codec driver
# |
but we know you want Realtek from an earlier post.
Going back to dmesg
| Code: | | [ 0.894283] hdaudio hdaudioC1D0: Unable to bind the codec |
Thats Card 1, Device 0,
| Code: | | [ 2.035296] hdaudio hdaudioC0D0: Unable to bind the codec |
so both your sound cards are seen and it is a codec problem.
Build CONFIG_SND_HDA as a module, so we can play with modprobe.
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| Quote: | | What does "lspci -nnk" show? |
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00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller [8086:160c] (rev 09)
Subsystem: Lenovo Broadwell-U Audio Controller [17aa:2226]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI Controller [8086:9cb1] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI Controller [17aa:2226]
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00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller [8086:9ca0] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller [17aa:2226]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 [8086:9c9a] (rev e3)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
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| Quote: | | Build CONFIG_SND_HDA as a module, so we can play with modprobe. |
How can i do this. Editing the .config directly with vim has no effect?
sudo make config starts the command line assistent and I have to go through each step.
I did it with menuconfig and "HELP' and / but I cannot find the related menu item.
Only found this?
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Symbol: SND_HDA [=y] │
│ Type : tristate │
│ Defined at sound/pci/hda/Kconfig:3 │
│ Depends on: SOUND [=y] && !UML && SND [=y] │
│ Selects: SND_PCM [=y] && SND_VMASTER [=y] && SND_JACK [=y] && SND_HDA_CORE [=y] │
│ Selected by: SND_HDA_INTEL [=y] && SOUND [=y] && !UML && SND [=y] && SND_PCI [=y] || SND_HDA_TEGRA [=n] && SOUND [=y] && !UML && SND [=y] && ARCH_TEGRA |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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So i set CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS to yes.
This is all I've tried, still no result.
| Code: | /usr/src/linux grep HDMI .config
CONFIG_HDMI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=m
# CONFIG_HDMI_LPE_AUDIO is not set
/usr/src/linux alsactl init
alsactl: init:1757: No soundcards found...
/usr/src/linux 19 cd
~ cat /proc/asound/cards
--- no soundcards ---
~ sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec-realtek
~ sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec-hdmi
~ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:272: no soundcards found...
~ cat /proc/asound/cards
--- no soundcards ---
~ alsactl init
alsactl: init:1757: No soundcards found...
~ 19 lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_hda_codec_realtek 81920 0
snd_hda_codec_generic 73728 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 57344 0
iwlmvm 311296 0
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
iwlwifi 258048 1 iwlmvm
efivarfs 16384 1
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Here is my dmesg: http://bpaste.net/show/ef52e042e1eb
Here is my .config: http://bpaste.net/show/bebd1c9c9950 |
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I'm seeing unable to bind codec messages in dmesg and alsa isn't seeing a soundcard.
| Code: | [ 2.031416] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops 0xffffffff9fab6500)
[ 2.034353] hdaudio hdaudioC0D0: Unable to bind the codec |
Actually it wouldn't hurt to set all your snd* stuff to compile as modules, once you figure out which it is (it'll load automatically) you can disable the rest.
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So I've booted with the LiveCD again. Here it seems to work, but why.
snd_hda_codec and snd_hda_core do not appear in my lsmod but this is because I've compiled it into the kernel I guess..
What I noticed: There is no snd_hda_codec in my .config?
| Code: | /usr/src/linux grep -i snd_hda_codec .config
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132=m
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132_DSP is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054=m
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When booted from LiveCD:
All available modules: https://bpaste.net/show/d0d7bee27df6
lsmod: https://bpaste.net/show/59aac4307c25
dmesg: https://bpaste.net/show/5d8c6d7c83fa
Here is my .config: http://bpaste.net/show/bebd1c9c9950 |
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change all of your sound stuff to be modules, hard to diagnose when they are part and part.
I select everything under sound as modules (except for the ones that make me select y/n only)
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I did as you said, my .config looks like this now: http://bpaste.net/show/713ed50d1085
The dmesg message with not finding the codec is the same.
What else can I do. |
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Is this really necessary? What would this change? I really just want some audio 
It's working with the LiveCD. Also how can I upgrade the kernel?
I'm running 4.14.83
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[S] ~ uname -a
Linux thinkpad-x250 4.14.83-gentoo #6 SMP Fri Dec 14 17:50:49 CET 2018 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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I'm reading this. I'm running both commands but it does not download a new kernel.
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[S] ~ sudo emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
* IMPORTANT: 14 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
* Use eselect news read to view new items.
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[S] ~ 130 sudo emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world
* IMPORTANT: 14 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
* Use eselect news read to view new items.
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
x11-libs/cairo:0
(x11-libs/cairo-1.14.12:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with
x11-libs/cairo[X,xcb] required by (x11-wm/i3-gaps-4.15.0.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^
>=x11-libs/cairo-1.12.14-r4:0/0=[X,abi_x86_64(-)] required by (x11-libs/pango-1.42.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^
>=x11-libs/cairo-1.12.14-r4:=[X,abi_x86_64(-)] required by (x11-libs/pango-1.42.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^
>=x11-libs/cairo-1.14[glib,svg,X,abi_x86_64(-)] required by (x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.30:3/3::gentoo, installed)
^
x11-libs/pango:0
(x11-libs/pango-1.42.4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with
x11-libs/pango[X] required by (x11-wm/i3-gaps-4.15.0.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^
x11-libs/pango[X] required by (x11-misc/rofi-1.5.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
^
Nothing to merge; quitting.
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EDIT: I did all codec as modules, but some modules i can load without an error but the dont appear within lsmod.
This is the lsmod from the LiveCD again
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[/tmp/test, 1]: cat lsmod.txt | grep -E 'snd*'
snd_hda_codec_realtek 77824 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 61440 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49152 1
snd_hda_intel 32768 0
snd_hda_codec 90112 4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core 57344 5 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_pcm 81920 4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer 28672 1 snd_pcm
snd 69632 8 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,thinkpad_acpi,snd_pcm
soundcore 16384 1 snd
dm_snapshot 40960 0
dm_bufio 24576 1 dm_snapshot
dm_mod 106496 7 dm_raid,dm_crypt,dm_zero,dm_log,dm_snapshot,dm_mirror,dm_bufio
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but I can only load this ones. I can load the others via modprobe but they dont appear in lsmod. Also dmesg does not say anything about it.
| Code: | [S] ~ lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_hda_codec_realtek 81920 0
snd_hda_codec_generic 73728 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 57344 0
iwlmvm 311296 0
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
iwlwifi 258048 1 iwlmvm
efivarfs 16384 1
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