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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:10 pm    Post subject: Krey vs Lutris Reply with quote

Created this article on demand from the community + i want to prove that my actions towards Lutris ware justified.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitreya wrote:
The fact that you forked a project and named it CANCERLESSproject because the maintainer didn't do what you ordered him to do and on top of that then trying to speak in name of "Gentoo" is quite telling and we wont need more information or "verify the informations" to get to a conclusion where people are unlikely to help you beyond this point.

If you are really serious about continuing to contribute, I would make amends with a Mea Culpa (if the people are willing to listen to it)


Project was forked with this name as a reaction on community and developer actions. Will be renamed once i finish it.

i never speak in name of gentoo i'm the end-user + from my staying on their discord and my interaction with them i helped many people with their wine, lutris and made a installers

Please note the facts:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MathieuComandon/posts/gr8gDNBPfs8 most people on the server started bashing me for using gentoo (mostly arch and ubuntu users) mainteiner joined them..

When i reported the issue: https://github.com/lutris/lutris/issues/1161 note the form explained in 3rd comment the maintainer refused to verify the issue and bashed me for using gentoo.. once i made this github issue the maintainer fixed the issue based on my report and didn't mensioned it anywhere.. https://github.com/lutris/lutris/issues/1167

https://github.com/lutris/lutris/issues/1156 i reported the critical bug with dependencies which fixed the issue for many people.. note that not only gentoo uses /usr/lib* for its deps.

my czech translate of po was removed: https://github.com/lutris/lutris/blob/master/po/cs.po

If you need more info check #suggestion on gentoo discord or history on their server to see for yourself since i'm on the vacation i can't provide those messages. Will provide on demand.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Google+ post, lacking context, could be seen as humorous. It could also be a fairly obvious and reasonable policy statement. As a rule, Linux distributions are not sufficiently similar that you can assume a user of one distribution can effectively support a user of another, unrelated distribution. Sometimes the problem is localized enough that it is possible, or the helping user has expertise across several systems. Sometimes not. If you want to say people were mean to you, then (1) provide transcripts from the start of the conversation, and (2) remember that users there may not be users here. Some people on the Internet are not nice, but there is no justification for letting bad behavior in one community lead you to be a worse member of a different community.

The transcript at the start of that Github issue, if accurate, is unfortunate. Perhaps the maintainer really does not like supporting Gentoo. Perhaps he simply cannot support it and was terse in his reminder of that. I concur with Medath's opening criticism. Your opening post, even after edits, is confusing at best.

As we discussed in the last thread about your Discord server, its history is unacceptably hard to use.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
That Google+ post, lacking context, could be seen as humorous. It could also be a fairly obvious and reasonable policy statement. As a rule, Linux distributions are not sufficiently similar that you can assume a user of one distribution can effectively support a user of another, unrelated distribution. Sometimes the problem is localized enough that it is possible, or the helping user has expertise across several systems. Sometimes not.


I was asking questions related on lutris to make installers when i was bashed for using gentoo..

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If you want to say people were mean to you, then (1) provide transcripts from the start of the conversation,


As i said i'm on the vacation atm and my gentoo system is not functional due https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669818 and https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669826. Once it's fixed or when i came back from vacation i will provide those transcripts.

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and (2) remember that users there may not be users here. Some people on the Internet are not nice, but there is no justification for letting bad behavior in one community lead you to be a worse member of a different community.


What else would you do? I tried to be defensive and ignore their behavior when i was contributing to the lutris based on experience with them i tried to adjust which just lead to more whitch hunting.. Linux Discord and Linux Gamers Group discord is so far the worst linux experience i had and with Linux Discord most of the members of linux community agrees..

Hu wrote:
The transcript at the start of that Github issue, if accurate, is unfortunate. Perhaps the maintainer really does not like supporting Gentoo. Perhaps he simply cannot support it and was terse in his reminder of that. I concur with Medath's opening criticism. Your opening post, even after edits, is confusing at best.


I chosed this behavior since i was bashed on their discord to hopefully improve the situation. I agree with people not supporting gentoo, but that shoudn't be an excuse to bugs.

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As we discussed in the last thread about your Discord server, its history is unacceptably hard to use.


it's not mine discord it's Discord server maintained by gentoo developers i just contributed to it a lot + there is also more effective open-source alternatives like zulip on which i was working on.
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