Patching out D-Bus dependencies

[Marcih]

EDIT: Since the discussion branched out further to other packages, I changed the subject from the original "GTK+3 without at-spi2"

I don't want to use D-Bus on my machine. Plain and simple.

Since most projects are moving or have already moved to the GTK+3 toolkit it is becoming increasingly more difficult to avoid it: sys-apps/dbus required by app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk, required by x11-libs/gtk+:3 [X]
I've heard of people setting the "wayland" USE flag even though they use Xorg (which, naturally, pulls in Wayland and related packages) just to avoid it. I've looked at the ebuild and, even with zero bash or ebuild-writing experience, it seems relatively easy to remove the dependency/create a new USE flag to offload the dependency to.

My question then is: are there any known cases of build failures or other instances you-broke-it-you-get-to-keep-all-the-pieces while attempting such a thing? I don't use (or want) accessibility features (yet the developers seem hell-bent on shoving it down my throat anyways) so I wouldn't be missing much on that front, I mean more serious things.
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[Anon-E-moose]

There's already a patch for the ebuild and the tar ball to remove the "hard dependency" on at-spi bridge, and AFAIK it works without problems.

This one is fine tuned (line numbers adjusted) for gtk+-3.22.30 https://paste.pound-python.org/show/GyNmRVpl4FcPRK2DI7IG/


edit to add: patch for ebuild is https://paste.pound-python.org/show/r1f2cNsMkCR9da3dLdv2/ <-don't use->

ETA2: use this https://paste.pound-python.org/show/4MUvvdU0NprBDvFEc611/ to patch the ebuild, I left off a newline from the other one.
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[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

copy /usr/portage/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-3.22.30.ebuild to local directory and apply https://paste.pound-python.org/show/4MUvvdU0NprBDvFEc611/
changed the link as the other had left off a newline
Save https://paste.pound-python.org/show/GyNmRVpl4FcPRK2DI7IG/ as gtk+-3.22.30.atk-bridge.patch in files directory in local directory.

emerge and enjoy.

Note:
It could be set up to use the user patch area, but I wasn't familiar with it when I did the above, so that is left as an exercise for the reader.
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[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

I didn't like the fact that dbus was pulled in either (as I run a dbus-less system)

It's a little aggravating as the original gtk3 series they had the patch applied so it was an option, but then they took it out, thereby forcing it on everyone.
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[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

Yeah the fuzz factor is fine, the 1st one complained about missing new line, but will still work ok.

You should be good to go.

After you apply the ebuild patch and have the patch in the files directory,
you need to run "ebuild gtk+-3.22.30.ebuild manifest" so that portage knows about it.
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[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

See above edit to add

I haven't messed with the d/gconf stuff, so I haven't looked into it.
Edit to add: that won't be easy to fix. I just typically avoid any and all gnome stuff, since almost everything "requires" gconf and it "has" to have dbus.
I don't know if there's a fix for it.
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[Marcih]

[asturm]

[Anon-E-moose]

asturm is right it only require xdg-utils, 1.1.3 is latest stable so it tries to get pulled in, it could be masked then it would pull 1.1.1
if you're going to mask 1.1.3 I would copy 1.1.1 to local directory.

As far as dconf, at least with libre 6.0, if you specify gtk+-2 it doesn't pull in dconf, at least that's what it appears from a quick glance.

gtk2 and gtk3 should be mutely exclusive, but I don't see that in the ebuild.
If you use the kde use flag, it pulls in gtk3.
So it depends on lots of variables as to what is "required"

I don't use libreoffice, so I don't know what you get with gtk2, gtk3 or kde enabled. That's something to play with.
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[Marcih]

[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

You could copy the ebuild to your local repository and modify it by either explicitly using the disable dconf flag or do what I did with gtk, add a use flag, and modify the ebuild in 2-3 places.

ie. something like, dconf use flag; dconf? () to bracket the dependency and at the bottom and if/else where the flags are passed to the tarball.

Edit to add: both gconf/dconf are basically for gnome, if not running gnome, they should be able to be turned off, the ebuild just isn't granular enough.
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[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

[Marcih]

[Anon-E-moose]

There was some discussion of that when I first brought it up (don't remember the thread)

It's not turning off accessibility, the atk library is still pulled in, but at-spi bridge for atk isn't.
I'll mention it if/when I file a bug report and let them decide, if they even accept the patch.

I just did the bug report https://bugs.gentoo.org/669234

We'll see whether they accept it, I'm sure there will be some discussion of it.
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[asturm]

To avoid gnome-base/dconf, you can simply build libreoffice with +gtk2 -gtk, at least at this point. iirc it was made a dependency for gtk simply because LO's gtk3-vcl was broken without it [and current gtk+3 pulls in dbus anyway, making the granularity just for dconf a waste of time].