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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:58 pm Post subject: Why doesn't my Kodi build use hardware acceleration? |
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Hi all,
Let's start with a brief picture of my system:
Code: | ➜ ~ neofetch --stdout
larry@gentoo
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OS: Gentoo/Linux x86_64
Kernel: 4.17.5-zen
Uptime: 1 hour, 5 mins
Packages: 1005
Shell: zsh 5.5.1
Resolution: 1920x1080
WM: i3
Theme: Adwaita [GTK2]
Icons: Adwaita [GTK2]
Terminal: urxvtd
Terminal Font: DejaVu Sans Mono
CPU: Intel i5-2500K (4) @ 3.301GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670
GPU: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family
Memory: 1424MiB / 15947MiB
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I've successfully built media-tv/kodi 17.3-r1 on amd64 using the latest stable ebuild in the default Gentoo repository, with the following USE flags: X alsa bluetooth css dbus dvd nonfree opengl pulseaudio samba sftp system-ffmpeg udev udisks upower vdpau webserver xslt:
Code: | ➜ ~ eix media-tv/kodi
[I] media-tv/kodi
Available versions: 17.3-r1 ~17.5-r1 ~17.6 ~17.6-r1 ~17.6-r2 ~17.6-r3 ~17.6-r4 **9999 {+X airplay alsa bluetooth bluray caps cec +css dbus debug dvd gbm gles java lcms libressl libusb lirc mysql nfs nonfree +opengl pulseaudio samba sftp +system-ffmpeg systemd test +udev udisks upnp upower vaapi vdpau wayland webserver +xslt zeroconf KERNEL="linux" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"}
Installed versions: 17.3-r1(00:09:58 18/07/18)(X alsa bluetooth css dbus dvd nonfree opengl pulseaudio samba sftp system-ffmpeg udev udisks upower vdpau webserver xslt -airplay -bluray -caps -cec -debug -gles -java -libressl -libusb -lirc -mysql -nfs -systemd -test -upnp -vaapi -zeroconf KERNEL="linux" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7")
Homepage: https://kodi.tv/ https://kodi.wiki/
Description: Kodi is a free and open source media-player and entertainment hub
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Notice the vdpau USE flag above. I've also successfully built x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers 396.24-r1, also using the latest stable ebuild in the default Gentoo repository, with the following use flags: X acpi driver kms multilib tools:
Code: | ➜ ~ eix x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Available versions: 304.137(0/304)^md 340.107(0/340)^md 375.82(0/375)^md 378.13-r1(0/378)^md 381.22-r1(0/381)^md 384.130(0/384)^md 387.34(0/387)^md 390.67(0/390)^md ~390.77(0/390)^md 396.24-r1(0/396)^md {+X acpi compat +driver gtk3 +kms multilib pax_kernel static-libs +tools uvm wayland ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_PPC="32 64" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32" KERNEL="FreeBSD linux"}
Installed versions: 396.24-r1^md(23:00:02 10/07/18)(X acpi driver kms multilib tools -compat -gtk3 -pax_kernel -static-libs -uvm -wayland ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32" KERNEL="linux -FreeBSD")
Homepage: http://www.nvidia.com/ http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx
Description: NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver
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The Nvidia kernel modules are running:
Code: | ➜ ~ lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia_drm 40960 1
nvidia_modeset 1064960 2 nvidia_drm
nvidia 13615104 72 nvidia_modeset
drm_kms_helper 229376 2 nvidia_drm,i915
ipmi_msghandler 65536 2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia
drm 512000 6 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm,i915
i2c_core 98304 7 drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,igb,nvidia,i2c_i801,i915,drm |
And for completion, this is the vdpauinfo output:
Code: | ➜ ~ vdpauinfo
display: :0 screen: 0
API version: 1
Information string: NVIDIA VDPAU Driver Shared Library 396.24 Wed Apr 25 23:53:18 PDT 2018
Video surface:
name width height types
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420 4096 4096 NV12 YV12
422 4096 4096 UYVY YUYV
Decoder capabilities:
name level macbs width height
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MPEG1 0 65536 4032 4048
MPEG2_SIMPLE 3 65536 4032 4048
MPEG2_MAIN 3 65536 4032 4048
H264_BASELINE 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_MAIN 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_HIGH 51 65536 4032 4080
VC1_SIMPLE 1 8190 2048 2048
VC1_MAIN 2 8190 2048 2048
VC1_ADVANCED 4 8190 2048 2048
MPEG4_PART2_SP 3 8192 2048 2048
MPEG4_PART2_ASP 5 8192 2048 2048
DIVX4_QMOBILE 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX4_MOBILE 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX4_HOME_THEATER 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX4_HD_1080P 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX5_QMOBILE 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX5_MOBILE 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX5_HOME_THEATER 0 8192 2048 2048
DIVX5_HD_1080P 0 8192 2048 2048
H264_CONSTRAINED_BASELINE 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_EXTENDED 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_PROGRESSIVE_HIGH 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_CONSTRAINED_HIGH 51 65536 4032 4080
H264_HIGH_444_PREDICTIVE 51 65536 4032 4080
HEVC_MAIN --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_10 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_STILL --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_12 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444 --- not supported ---
Output surface:
name width height nat types
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B8G8R8A8 16384 16384 y Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 A4I4 I4A4 A8I8 I8A8
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384 y Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 A4I4 I4A4 A8I8 I8A8
Bitmap surface:
name width height
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B8G8R8A8 16384 16384
R8G8B8A8 16384 16384
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384
B10G10R10A2 16384 16384
A8 16384 16384
Video mixer:
feature name sup
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DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL y
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL_SPATIAL y
INVERSE_TELECINE y
NOISE_REDUCTION y
SHARPNESS y
LUMA_KEY y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L1 y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L2 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L3 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L4 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L5 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L6 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L7 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L8 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L9 -
parameter name sup min max
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VIDEO_SURFACE_WIDTH y 1 4096
VIDEO_SURFACE_HEIGHT y 1 4096
CHROMA_TYPE y
LAYERS y 0 4
attribute name sup min max
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BACKGROUND_COLOR y
CSC_MATRIX y
NOISE_REDUCTION_LEVEL y 0.00 1.00
SHARPNESS_LEVEL y -1.00 1.00
LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA y
LUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA y
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Then in Kodi I've made sure that, in Settings/Player settings, Allow hardware acceleration - VDPAU is truned on, including all of its sub-options. Yet it appears that whenever I launch Kodi and play a(n HD) video file my CPU keeps spiking for as long as I use Kodi, even when browsing through the application menus and settings. While playing a video file, when pressing O, the Player process info shows: Video decoder: ff-h264 (SW). My memory is at ~10% and my four CPU cores are steaming between 85% and 95%.
Have I made a mistake somewhere? How can I force Kodi to use my GPU instead of my CPU? |
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bunder Bodhisattva
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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i see that you are running both i915 and nvidia, are you sure you're using the nvidia card? _________________
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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bunder wrote: | i see that you are running both i915 and nvidia, are you sure you're using the nvidia card? |
How can I be sure, and should I blacklist i915 perhaps? |
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khayyam Watchman
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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bunder wrote: | i see that you are running both i915 and nvidia, are you sure you're using the nvidia card? |
resill wrote: | How can I be sure, and should I blacklist i915 perhaps? |
resill ... 'cat /proc/fb' will show 'inteldrmfb' if i915 is in use ... I expect something similar for nvidia (I just can't say what).
best ... khay |
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resill n00b
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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khayyam wrote: | resill ... 'cat /proc/fb' will show 'inteldrmfb' if i915 is in use ... I expect something similar for nvidia (I just can't say what).
best ... khay |
Code: | ➜ ~ sudo cat /proc/fb
0 simple
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I guess we can rule this one out then, thanks. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
Are you using Xorg or running Kodi without X?
If you have an /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please put it onto a pastebin site. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | resill,
Are you using Xorg or running Kodi without X?
If you have an /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please put it onto a pastebin site. | I should be running Xorg. Please find my /var/log/Xorg.0.log here: https://pastebin.com/5V3AagKK |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
No acceleration at all.
Code: | [ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
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[ 35.230] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080
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The kernel module is loaded.
Code: |
[ 34.885] Build Operating System: Linux 4.15.0-20-generic x86_64 Gentoo
[ 34.886] Current Operating System: Linux nostromo 4.17.5-zen #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 10 20:13:39 -00 2018 x86_64 |
What does Code: | eselect opengl list | show.
So your nvidia card isn't working.
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[ 35.515] EGL_MESA_drm_image required.
[ 35.517] (EE) modeset(G0): glamor initialization failed |
Glamor provides acceleratin on the the Intel chipset.
Is this an Optims graphics system?
I suspect not as it would not have reported Code: | [ 35.230] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080 |
For nVidia, it may be as simple as selecting the nvidia opengl then restarting Xorg.
For the Intel chipest you need glamor support everywhere. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | resill,
No acceleration at all.
Code: | [ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try
[ 34.955] (EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
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[ 35.230] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080
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The kernel module is loaded.
Code: |
[ 34.885] Build Operating System: Linux 4.15.0-20-generic x86_64 Gentoo
[ 34.886] Current Operating System: Linux nostromo 4.17.5-zen #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 10 20:13:39 -00 2018 x86_64 |
What does Code: | eselect opengl list | show.
So your nvidia card isn't working.
Code: |
[ 35.515] EGL_MESA_drm_image required.
[ 35.517] (EE) modeset(G0): glamor initialization failed |
Glamor provides acceleratin on the the Intel chipset.
Is this an Optims graphics system?
I suspect not as it would not have reported Code: | [ 35.230] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080 |
For nVidia, it may be as simple as selecting the nvidia opengl then restarting Xorg.
For the Intel chipest you need glamor support everywhere. |
I'm not really sure what Optimus is, or if my card supports that (how can I find out?) I'm using an EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670.
You're a genius:
Code: | ➜ ~ sudo eselect opengl list
Password:
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia
[2] xorg-x11 * |
After settings this to nvidia and restarting Xorg I could play videos using Kodi with hardware acceleration again. Kodi also mentions it's using ff-h264-vdpau (HW). I must have missed this one when reinstalling my box, sorry...
My /var/log/Xorg.0.log still has some errors, but I'm already glad Kodi works again: https://pastebin.com/VcfdrVsf Would this still be of any concern? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
The Xorg auto hardware detect tries to use the following drivers, in order of preference.
Code: | [ 23401.300] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 4
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 5
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 6
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 7
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 8 |
Lines like
Code: | [ 23401.301] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nouveau
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[ 23401.301] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
| are harmless. Xorg tried to load the driver(s) but its not available.
Code: | [ 23401.586] (II) glamor: OpenGL accelerated X.org driver based.
[ 23401.636] (EE) modeset(G0): eglGetDisplay() failed
[ 23401.636] (EE) modeset(G0): glamor initialization failed | means that you won't have acceleration for your Intel chipset but you have to choose a single OpenGL implementation system wide, so you can't have both xorg and nvidia selected in eselect opengl at the same time.
Optimus is a cost saving and power saving way to combine an Intel and nVidia graphics system into a single graphics system.
Only the Intel GPU can write to the display but either GPUs can draw in the pixel buffer.
The nvidia GPU has no links to the outside world at all, so can't read the display EDID data or put an image on the display surface.
The idea is to only use the high power nvidia GPU only when its needed.
Its up to you if you want to fix glamor or not. Its not needed while the nvidia card is in use.
Installing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers usually selects the nvidia OpenGL for you. I wonder what happened for you? _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | resill,
The Xorg auto hardware detect tries to use the following drivers, in order of preference.
Code: | [ 23401.300] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 4
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 5
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 6
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 7
[ 23401.301] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 8 |
Lines like
Code: | [ 23401.301] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nouveau
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[ 23401.301] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
| are harmless. Xorg tried to load the driver(s) but its not available.
Code: | [ 23401.586] (II) glamor: OpenGL accelerated X.org driver based.
[ 23401.636] (EE) modeset(G0): eglGetDisplay() failed
[ 23401.636] (EE) modeset(G0): glamor initialization failed | means that you won't have acceleration for your Intel chipset but you have to choose a single OpenGL implementation system wide, so you can't have both xorg and nvidia selected in eselect opengl at the same time.
Optimus is a cost saving and power saving way to combine an Intel and nVidia graphics system into a single graphics system.
Only the Intel GPU can write to the display but either GPUs can draw in the pixel buffer.
The nvidia GPU has no links to the outside world at all, so can't read the display EDID data or put an image on the display surface.
The idea is to only use the high power nvidia GPU only when its needed.
Its up to you if you want to fix glamor or not. Its not needed while the nvidia card is in use.
Installing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers usually selects the nvidia OpenGL for you. I wonder what happened for you? |
Thanks for explaining and taking the time took look at my logs. I'm willing to fix glamor, just to have a backup, and because I'm interested. When taking a look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel#Modesetting_DDX it should be just a matter of adding the glamor USE flag, and appending intel i965 to my VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" in my make.conf, right (not sure about that last one)?
I'm also not sure what happened to my x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers installation. I just set the aforementioned VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" in make.conf and did a @world update. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
I think its just adding USE=glamor then rebuilding affected packages.
Unless nvidia has changed over that last few years adding intel i965 to VIDEO_CARDS= will fail as the kernel cannot support both intel and the nvidia binary blob at the same time.
Hence your intel chip uses the modesetting driver, which works but is not as good as the Intel driver. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | resill,
I think its just adding USE=glamor then rebuilding affected packages.
Unless nvidia has changed over that last few years adding intel i965 to VIDEO_CARDS= will fail as the kernel cannot support both intel and the nvidia binary blob at the same time.
Hence your intel chip uses the modesetting driver, which works but is not as good as the Intel driver. |
When adding the glamor USE flag to make.conf and then doing a sudo emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --newuse --keep-going --with-bdeps=y @world, nothing is rebuilt for some reason. Maybe this only works when changing completely to VIDEO_CARDS="intel i965", right? Anyway, my original issue is fixed and I dare not take any more of your time. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
Code: | $ equery h glamor
* Searching for USE flag glamor ...
[IP-] [ ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.5-r2:0/1.19.5
[IP-] [ ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-18.0.1-r1:0 |
Only x11-base/xorg-server is of interest. Does Code: | emerge -pv1 x11-base/xorg-server | list glamor as set already?
Don't worry about my time. Others will read this thread later. It will help them too. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 31
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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@NeddySeagoon
Why, yes it does:
Code: | ➜ ~ emerge -pv1 x11-base/xorg-server
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.5-r2:0/1.19.5::gentoo USE="glamor ipv6 suid udev xorg -debug -dmx -doc -kdrive -libressl -minimal (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -tslib -unwind -wayland -xcsecurity -xephyr -xnest -xvfb" 0 KiB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB |
It feels like I'm missing something. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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resill,
Glamor must be set either in your profile, or in your package.use.
I don't understand the Xorg error now. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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resill n00b
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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@NeddySeagoon
I can't seem to find it in either package.use or in make.profile:
Code: | ➜ ~ grep -ir glamor /etc/portage/package.use
➜ ~ grep -ir glamor /etc/portage/make.profile
➜ ~ |
and eix shows I have built it 8 days ago:
Code: | ➜ ~ eix x11-base/xorg-server
[I] x11-base/xorg-server
Available versions: 1.19.5-r2(0/1.19.5) ~1.20.0(0/1.20.0) **9999(0/9999) {debug dmx doc +glamor ipv6 kdrive libressl minimal selinux static-libs +suid systemd tslib +udev unwind wayland xcsecurity xephyr xnest xorg xvfb}
Installed versions: 1.19.5-r2(14:14:11 10/07/18)(glamor ipv6 suid udev xorg -debug -dmx -doc -kdrive -libressl -minimal -selinux -static-libs -systemd -tslib -unwind -wayland -xcsecurity -xephyr -xnest -xvfb)
Homepage: https://www.x.org/wiki/ https://cgit.freedesktop.org/
Description: X.Org X servers
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It must be included somewhere, according to:
Code: | ➜ ~ portageq envvar USE | xargs -n 1 | grep glamor
glamor |
Where else should I look? |
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Hu Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:24 am Post subject: |
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As of my last sync, =x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.5-r2 has IUSE=+glamor, so it is enabled unless you explicitly disable it. |
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