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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: The FreeBSD Code of Conduct Reply with quote

Brian Lunduke wrote:
...almost a word-for-word copy of the "geekfeminism" anti-harassment policy...


Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNdQJSlg54

Code of Conduct here:
https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html

EDIT: Remember that non-consensual virtual hugs are horrific forms of virtual harassment.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(jb vomits)

The PC-limpness is strong in this one.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP freebsd.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's one way to hollow out an organisation so you can embezzle its funding, I guess. After all it worked on Gnome.

Watch for changes in the flow of money out of FBSD's bank accounts in the coming future.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lunduke follows up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5YJWYviUeQ
(first five minutes).

Typical SJW reaction to criticism, abuse.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol @ virtual hugs bad, virtual tombstone threats good.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't find anything about this in the Gentoo CoC... Will anybody mind if I send you all in this thread virtual hugs? Do I have your consent? :lol:
Well get fcked, here are your hugs anyways! *hugs the entire thread*
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Seriously, what the hell is going on with FreeBSD? The end where they even admit they took the example CoC from the Geek Feminism WIki (sidenote, I'd rather the FLOSS community not be associated with the words "geek" or "nerd", thanks :P ) gave me big laffs and hope that it was just a parody of big Sillicon Valley corps pushing diversity (read: less white, less male; By Any Means Necessary(tm)) but alas... And they even have a glossary to explain the terms used at the end!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcih wrote:
I didn't find anything about this in the Gentoo CoC... Will anybody mind if I send you all in this thread virtual hugs? Do I have your consent?



You need to find another word * for hug - asking permission to give a hug implies that you want to hug somebody, that may be construed as a possible sexual advance.

(I would suggest pineapples instead.)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcih wrote:
Seriously, what the hell is going on with FreeBSD?
I think they're just trying to address the earlier complaints of behavior in an societal environment that really doesn't make any sense. There is no intuitive way to react and have an understanding that you've Done the Right Thing. That's the only explanation I can think of which explains adopting that specific CoD piece. I don't envy anyone in the position of having to address social issues in the current environment.

I'd also add that meritocracy is an appropriate means of evaluating contributions. It seems the rights of snowflakes have higher importance than those with ASD, an actual medical condition. Especially interesting given the supposed value of non-discrimination against the disabled. Maybe it has more to do with the people more likely to have ASD.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
You need to find another word * for hug - asking permission to give a hug implies that you want to hug somebody, that may be construed as a possible sexual advance.

(I would suggest pineapples instead.)

Are we going to develop our own code language for things like hugs? I don't know, that's not very much unlike paedophilles and their cheese pizzas and triangles and hearts and handkerchiefs and what not... :? :lol:

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I think they're just trying to address the earlier complaints of behavior in an societal environment that really doesn't make any sense.

Do you mean the general social atmosphere of outrage about perceived (often wrongly) sexual harassment by moral busybodies and attention-seekers or have there been such complaints specifically directed towards the FreeBSD community? I'm kind of lost on what you were trying to say with your post because I actively try not to keep up with this insanity. I thought FLOSS and Linux communities were going to be my safe haven... :cry:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcih wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
You need to find another word * for hug - asking permission to give a hug implies that you want to hug somebody, that may be construed as a possible sexual advance.

(I would suggest pineapples instead.)

Are we going to develop our own code language for things like pineapples ? :



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcih wrote:
pjp wrote:
I think they're just trying to address the earlier complaints of behavior in an societal environment that really doesn't make any sense.

Do you mean the general social atmosphere of outrage about perceived (often wrongly) sexual harassment by moral busybodies and attention-seekers
Yes, I am referring to the general social atmosphere, independent of any FLOSS community. But those FLOSS communities are also a subset of the larger general community.

Marcih wrote:
or have there been such complaints specifically directed towards the FreeBSD community? I'm kind of lost on what you were trying to say with your post because I actively try not to keep up with this insanity. I thought FLOSS and Linux communities were going to be my safe haven... :cry:
There has been a specific incident within the FreeBSD development community (not, to my knowledge the "user" community) that lead to a new code of conduct. I'll get a reference later, I'm not finding one quickly right now (I'd prefer it to not be heavily "biased," and that seems to be the short list of results I'm finding).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, well, I'll just leave this one side of the story. Originally posted on 2015.12/31, some months after the "fallout."

People can do their own digging if they want "the other side" -- there are a lot of results from the peanut gallery I don't care to wade through.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160820210416/https://blog.randi.io/2015/12/31/the-developer-formerly-known-as-freebsdgirl/
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
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(jb vomits)

The PC-limpness is strong in this one.
You have the right to vomit in a vomitocracy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
lol @ virtual hugs bad, virtual tombstone threats good.

I'm with FreeBSD on this one. Sending someone a virtual hug should be cause for punishment.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
I'm with FreeBSD on this one. Sending someone a virtual hug should be cause for punishment.


If receiving a virtual pineapple traumatises so, then coping with real life must be an ordeal - to the extent that you're probably best served by isolating yourself and dealing with a proxy for day to day tasks.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
OK, well, I'll just leave this one side of the story. Originally posted on 2015.12/31, some months after the "fallout."
https://web.archive.org/web/20160820210416/https://blog.randi.io/2015/12/31/the-developer-formerly-known-as-freebsdgirl/
FreeBSDGirl wrote:
Muh GamerGaters and neo-nazis

Yeah, why am I not surprised... When she got to the point in the story about lawyers contacting her about her username, I started to feel for her. Sure, she was a bit thin-skinned and petty for my taste, but if that happened as she described it (and I'm not too bothered to check) then that was questionable at best from FreeBSD.
Ultimately, it was a situation that she herself could've completely avoided but escalated to a point where things happening to her were disproportionate to her behaviour.
If teh ebul gaymergaterz are harassing you and actually making you feel miserable, the simplest solution is avoid services like Twitter and Reddit and remind yourself that the interwebz isn't the real world and can easily be escaped. As soon as you let that seep into the real world you're in for a treat and that's exactly what she let happen.
Thanks for that pjp, it was a nice read and was probably one of the reason for the asinine new CoC.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interview with a core team member.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll leave that here.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pun_guin wrote:
I'll leave that here.
Sounds like a good opportunity for an early election, or at least the attention as to the why of an early election.

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Pareto principle means that they only need to lose a handful of people before the project goes to shit.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s087Ca9JnYw
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
richk449 wrote:
I'm with FreeBSD on this one. Sending someone a virtual hug should be cause for punishment.


If receiving a virtual pineapple traumatises so, then coping with real life must be an ordeal - to the extent that you're probably best served by isolating yourself and dealing with a proxy for day to day tasks.

This sounds wonderful. Where can I get one of these proxies?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrbassie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s087Ca9JnYw
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
richk449 wrote:
I'm with FreeBSD on this one. Sending someone a virtual hug should be cause for punishment.


If receiving a virtual pineapple traumatises so, then coping with real life must be an ordeal - to the extent that you're probably best served by isolating yourself and dealing with a proxy for day to day tasks.

This sounds wonderful. Where can I get one of these proxies?


Well, if you book an appointment with your physician and carefully explain that you don't like receiving pineapples (get a bit aggressive if he asks you to explain) - you'll get a proxy.

And a nice padded room too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
pjp wrote:
lol @ virtual hugs bad, virtual tombstone threats good.

I'm with FreeBSD on this one. Sending someone a virtual hug should be cause for punishment.


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