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EugeneTheJeep Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 17 May 2017 Posts: 101
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:07 pm Post subject: Plasma only shows debugging text after loading[SOLVED] |
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Hello,
I'm having an issue with KDE Plasma where it loads and successfully shows the KDE splash screen, then reverts to terminal and only shows scrolling debugging text. It happened after the most recent KDE update and a kernel recompile. I'm not sure which if either caused it, because I hadn't rebooted my computer between performing those two tasks. I've verified that X is functioning properly by renaming .xinitrc and emerging twm, xclock, and xterm. That environment worked just fine, so it's certainly a Plasma issue. I'm not sure, however, where to start troubleshooting this. I'm considering unmerging plasma-meta then re-emerging the desktop environment, but I'm looking for some feedback before I start that time consuming task. Any advice is appreciated!
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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It is not very efficient to open a new thread when you provided relevant logs already elsewhere.
EugeneTheJeep wrote: | Code: |
$ startx
xauth: file /home/jeep/.serverauth.26306 does not exist |
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_________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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EugeneTheJeep Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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It is not very efficient to open a new thread when you provided relevant logs already elsewhere.
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It was what I was instructed to do by an admin.
Thank you. However, the behavior persists. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 47007 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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asturm,
I asked for a new thread, as I am not a KDE user.
Lots of reads will miss a change in topic but the unanswered posts search helps spot new issues. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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EugeneTheJeep Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I recorded a short video of the behavior so it was clear what is going on. At about the 45 second mark I CTRL+C out, and it eventually returns to the terminal prompt.
https://youtu.be/63deZHfIudg
Also, I will gladly repost any logs here that are relevant to the thread. |
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Xywa Veteran


Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 1630 Location: /mnt/Gentoo/Europe
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I have the same issue since last time. After startx, I could see the KDE logo for a moment, and then just debbuging text. I need to manually (by alt+F7) switch into graphic console (which has some graphic issue as well).
I use a laptop. |
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Do you for some reason have both systemd and consolekit installed? _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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EugeneTheJeep Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Do you for some reason have both systemd and consolekit installed?
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I use openrc; I don't have systemd installed...
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~ $ eix --installed systemd
No matches found
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I have the same issue since last time. After startx, I could see the KDE logo for a moment, and then just debbuging text. I need to manually (by alt+F7) switch into graphic console (which has some graphic issue as well).
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Yes, thank you. I actually figured it out last night, but yeah now I need to manually alt+F7 to reach desktop. Actually NeddySeagoon suggested the same, but he put alt+ctrl+F7 so I missed it the first time around. I should have known that's what he meant since I already knew how to switch terminals.
Anyways, thanks to both you Xywa and NeddySeagoon for helping me figure it out. |
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Hu Moderator

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 16461
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:50 am Post subject: |
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As a minor technical note: Alt+Fn works on the Linux console and is handled by the kernel. When X is running, you must use Ctrl+Alt+Fn and the key sequence is handled by the X server, which for convention does the same as the kernel would have done for plain Alt+Fn. If your X server is sufficiently broken, you might get into a state where the kernel's Alt+Fn works, but the X server's Ctrl+Alt+Fn fails. |
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Xywa Veteran


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: |
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asturm wrote: | Do you for some reason have both systemd and consolekit installed? |
I have:
Code: | * sys-apps/systemd
Latest version available: 236-r5
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
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Code: | * sys-auth/consolekit
Latest version available: 1.2.0
Latest version installed: 1.2.0
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What do you think makes this problem, as for the last 12 years (or more) I never had such issue. |
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Because someone recently reported a similar issue that was gone after removing consolekit.
...not sure if 12 years ago you had systemd installed. _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Xywa Veteran


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:50 am Post subject: |
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asturm wrote: | Because someone recently reported a similar issue that was gone after removing consolekit.
...not sure if 12 years ago you had systemd installed. |
So should I remove consolekit? |
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Just try? What does it do on your systemd system anyway? _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Xywa Veteran


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: |
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asturm wrote: | Just try? What does it do on your systemd system anyway? |
After removing, emerge -uDN world did put it back.
Code: | # equery d consolekit
* These packages depend on consolekit:
kde-plasma/powerdevil-5.11.5 (consolekit ? >=sys-auth/consolekit-1.0.1)
net-misc/networkmanager-1.8.4 (consolekit ? >=sys-auth/consolekit-1.0.0)
sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.45 (!elogind ? sys-auth/consolekit)
sys-auth/pambase-20150213-r1 (consolekit ? sys-auth/consolekit[pam])
sys-auth/polkit-0.113-r4 (!elogind ? sys-auth/consolekit[policykit])
x11-misc/sddm-0.17.0-r1 (consolekit ? >=sys-auth/consolekit-0.9.4)
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Then check your use flags on those packages... _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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wklam n00b

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 41
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for everyone in this thread for pointing me to the right direction.
I have similar issue when logging in Plasma / KDE with startx couple weeks ago.
My ~/.xinitrc used to be, until today, simply:
Code: | exec /usr/bin/startkde |
Then I started having issues when startx launching KDE / Plasma going to debug screen / console last couple weeks. Before that, this setup had been running fine for many (10~11?) years.
When this happens KDE / KWIN / Plasma is actually running, despite going to console debug screen. I have to use ALT-F7 / ALT-CRTL-F7 from the debugging console to go back to the plasma desktop.
I tried a couple other things: Removing ~/.cache, removing ~/.local/share/[kde related rc files], fiddling with opengl settings... None of them worked.
So the last couple replies in this thread gave me hints for looking into consolekits.
I did not remove consolekit. Doing so requiring some USE flag changes + elogind. I am too lazy to try anything new.
Finally, my issue was solved with a modified ~/.xinitrc, which was mentioned in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ConsoleKit#startx_integration
Code: | exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde |
Hope this helps others with similar issues.
Thanks again!
-William |
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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This is also part of our Gentoo KDE wiki.
wklam wrote: | Before that, this setup had been running fine for many (10~11?) years. |
It was not; you must have had a broken user session (at least) ever since Plasma-5 (no device permissions etc.). _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Xywa Veteran


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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:37 am Post subject: |
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wklam wrote: | Finally, my issue was solved with a modified ~/.xinitrc, which was mentioned in
Code: | exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde |
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^^ this did the trick for me
i used to have: exec startkde
Thanks for that also my kde button like [poweroff] or [restart] finaly works for me  |
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asturm Developer


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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Just reading the Gentoo KDE wiki helps as well... _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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Xywa Veteran


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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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asturm wrote: | Just reading the Gentoo KDE wiki helps as well... |
It used to work for me since 2005 through few laptops and stable and unstable Gentoo. I was not aware of any changes  |
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