I give up. Any sysadmin wanna get paid to set up via ssh?

[The_Pope]

Hi everyone,

Yeah, nice distro. But I'm barely experienced with Linux, let alone Gentoo. I can't go on having to recompile so many times because there's some flag somewhere I didn't even know was needed. I'm at my wits' end. Whenever I think I finally got it, something else doesn't work.

I'll install and unpack stage3, do all the partitions, etc. Then someone would log in via ssh and do all the work needed to bring two tutorials to reality. The point is getting the use flags and config files and whatnot in order. It also requires installing some ebuilds off the official Portage tree.

All the Linux experts tell me oh no, I have no time for that. Fine. How much for your time? Payments exclusively via Paypal, please.
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[Buffoon]

Why you need Gentoo? I could do that, I'm sick sitting at home.

[The_Pope]

[Buffoon]

Lets see those two tutorials. Need to get a picture of what needs to be done.

[The_Pope]

PM sent.
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[NeddySeagoon]

The_Pope,

This is a really bad idea.

Gentoo is a rolling distro. If you skip the install, when breaking it only costs your time, you will be missing the skills to maintain your install.
When you trash that, it will take all your user data with it too.

Get SystemRescueCD as your boot media, so you can have a GUI while you install.
Follow the handbook and ask here when you don't know which path to follow.
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[The_Pope]

Noooo no no no. Sorry, but I have weird stuff to do. Like installing stuff from the former "gentoo-x86" tree via cvs. Not kids' play. It would take forever for me to learn everything.

Mind you, I installed Gentoo on my own laptop, on a USB hard drive and I'm close to playing Starcraft II via Wine. This, however, requires someone experienced. There's no time for me to learn all that.
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[bbgermany]

Hi,

to be honest, but if you are not willing to learn how to maintain gentoo or any other linux system, you should go back to windows or even macos where you dont need to do a thing inside the system to get it running.

you wont even be able to get your cvs stuff installed. so my advice (as the other said as well) go back to the handbook and do by your hand!!!

my first gentoo install needed three retries before i even had a running base system!

greets, bb
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[augustin]

I don't buy the necessity of this Rite of Passage which is to install Gentoo for the first time.
Why impose the steep learning curve?
Any person who wants to learn could very well learn progressively, in a more relaxed manner, after the box has been installed... by someone else, if necessary.
The installation process is too much to take in all at once for a newbie.

[Ant P.]

I'm highly suspicious of the claim that you can't be bothered to learn to install a Linux distro or even ask for help doing so (as thousands of others here have done successfully), yet you make it sound like you have some sort of top secret mission of utmost urgency that requires this specific one.

By all means, skip the easy part, but don't come back later asking for help operating a space shuttle. Everyone will give answers that assume you've learned to walk, and they won't give a damn what emergency you've gotten yourself into by then if you can't even do that.

[szatox]

[The_Pope]

Jesus Christ. You people really cling on to your oh-I'm-so-different-because-I'm-such-a-power-user aura, don't you?

Well, yes, I _do_ have a sort of secret mission, if that's what you want to call it. Which is why I told the man what I needed him to do via private messaging.

It's a thing that I don't even know if it can be done with Gentoo, so it made so much more sense to ask someone who's years ahead of me in understanding Gentoo, to do it himself. Then, if it works, I can learn that myself. In the process, an experienced sysadmin gets many thanks and as much money as agreed upon.

But no, your self-righteous ways impose rites of passage, don't they? This, mark my words, is the exact same mentality of exclusivism as the bullcrap Apple users want to radiate. I thought Gentoo is open and modular, regardless of _who_ is building it, not that it's the high mountain peak where only a select few can climb. I'm sorry, I have things to do outside reading scattered and sometimes outdated documentation.
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[Hu]

Many users can successfully install Gentoo, given the patience to do so. However, as Ant P. noted, maintaining it is not trivial. If you hire someone to install it for you, there is a good chance that you will need to hire someone to maintain it for you, at least until you go back and learn the parts you skipped by not installing it. If you prefer the idea of spending your money instead of your time, by all means, do so. That is, after all, why most organizations have dedicated IT staff instead of expecting every employee to self-administer. Just be aware that you have placed yourself in that situation, and that you might need to continue to rely on contracted assistance.

[The_Pope]

Absolutely. I never thought otherwise. In fact, the things I need Gentoo to do are similar to what servers do, so first one finds out if it runs, then document all about it, then there would be little maintaining to do anyway.

Setting it up for personal use, oh I did that already. I have a laptop that came with Windows and I now have an external hard drive with Gentoo 64-bit on it, with X and XFCE 4.
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[ct85711]

I hope you realize Gentoo is not a distribution you can update when ever you like... Gentoo is very temperamental when you don't update on a regular basis (at most, I'd say monthly basis). It is very common to see forum posts from people asking for help because they did not update too often, and now have a broken machine. Depending on how long you wait in between updating, could end up resulting you constantly reinstalling the whole machine (usually once the machine gets close to or pass 1 year of not updating), it ends up being a lost cause on updating the machine, over wiping and starting over...

[tlhonmey]