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tuxtop n00b
Joined: 28 Aug 2015 Posts: 15
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:34 pm Post subject: Unable to start xfce as user |
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Dear Forum
As I now tried every hint I found in the internet (or at least over google and ddgo ) and nothing works, I hope somebody here might have the answer for me
As root everything works fine. Regardless of using startx of startxfce4 I end op in the Desktop, I now installed slim too and this works perfectly with root too.
However, when I try as normal user I end up getting a message (looking like an xfce warning)
Quote: | Unable to determine failsafe session name | with some more text about what might be the problem
So I checked if dbus is running, yes, the folders in ~/.config have the appropriate rights and so on.
But still I get this said message as non-root user.
Thank you in advance for helping |
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Roman_Gruber Advocate
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3846 Location: Austro Bavaria
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Code: | cat /etc/conf.d/xdm
# We always try and start X on a static VT. The various DMs normally default
# to using VT7. If you wish to use the xdm init script, then you should ensure
# that the VT checked is the same VT your DM wants to use. We do this check to
# ensure that you haven't accidentally configured something to run on the VT
# in your /etc/inittab file so that you don't get a dead keyboard.
CHECKVT=7
# What display manager do you use ? [ xdm | gdm | kdm | gpe | entrance ]
# NOTE: If this is set in /etc/rc.conf, that setting will override this one.
DISPLAYMANAGER="slim"
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You may adapt this file to your needs and than add xdm to runlevel default with rc-update add .... .... |
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tuxtop n00b
Joined: 28 Aug 2015 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:35 am Post subject: |
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The file looked already exactly like the one you posted. |
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Roman_Gruber Advocate
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3846 Location: Austro Bavaria
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:53 am Post subject: |
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rc-update show
does service xdm exists in runlevel default?
if it does the service which is in the other file will be run, which is slim in my case.. |
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tuxtop n00b
Joined: 28 Aug 2015 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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yes xdm is in default runlevel
Slim works perfectly i can login with root & password an then the xfce desktop appears but i still get the error "Unable to determine failsafe session name" when trying with username & password |
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Roman_Gruber Advocate
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3846 Location: Austro Bavaria
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tuxtop n00b
Joined: 28 Aug 2015 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well as I said I tried already all hints I found in google and this includes the ones from the archforum. Since nothing of that worked I decided to ask my question here |
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-Fin-roller n00b
Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 14 Location: Paimio
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Heh, did the googling include this one too?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-808713-start-0.html
Could post little more besides the last line of console output too when you try to do startxfce4 from the command line please =). Or is that the only thing that's printed? |
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tuxtop n00b
Joined: 28 Aug 2015 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Yes I also found this thread while googling
Tried everything I found there except the adding to the groups since I have none of those groups listed (cat /etc/group)
This is the only error i get and it seems to be displayed in a xfce-styled message-window. I can only hit close and then get back to the slim-loginscreen which is kind of flickering but I can then login again (as root which works and also ends the flickering)
I looked at /var/log/Xorg.log but found nothing that looked like an error not even the error i get displayed is logged there |
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Roman_Gruber Advocate
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3846 Location: Austro Bavaria
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:36 am Post subject: |
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how about using lxdm?
lxdm -d, kinda starts it in daemon mode, quite enough when you start it from cli. |
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-Fin-roller n00b
Joined: 13 Aug 2015 Posts: 14 Location: Paimio
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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You should startxfce4 from command line and see what get printed in there. |
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slackline Veteran
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 1471 Location: /uk/sheffield
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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I've encountered similar sort of problem today.
I use slim (its in the default runlevel) so when booting I end up dropping into the slim login. Enter my username and password and instead of then getting prompted for my ssh RSA key password (since I use net-misc/ssh-askpass-fullscreen) I just get the desktop displayed without any toolbar (I have one normally), no mouse cursor, menu keys don't work.
No idea whats going on, recent updates included nm-applet (NetworkManager applet) and that changed /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop from...
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Exec=dbus-launch nm-applet
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...to...
So I tried reverting to the old config but no change when restarting slim via '/etc/init.d/xdm restart'.
I can use 'startxfce4' as user and the desktop starts fine which is perhaps suggesting there is something going on between slim and xfce thats gone awry, but no idea what that might be as there are no warnings/errors reported when using 'startxfce4'.
Weird and mildly frustrating.
EDIT : I use compiz as a window manager, is it possible this could be whats causing the problem? I don't really know and suspect not since I'm not getting past the ssh-askpass-fullscreen stage for compiz to have started and can run it fine if using startxfce4 so perhaps its something in the xinit process? _________________ "Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer. Art is everything else we do." - Donald Knuth |
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slackline Veteran
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 1471 Location: /uk/sheffield
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Poking around I tried switching from Compiz to xfwm4 but this makes no difference, still can't login from Slim and don't get ssh-askpass-fullscreen appearing, but can log in to a terminal and startxfce4 no problem.
Very strange.
The packages I've updated in the last week or so are...
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Wed Sep 2 06:40:47 2015 >>> app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools-1.68
Wed Sep 2 06:42:19 2015 >>> dev-vcs/git-2.5.1
Wed Sep 2 07:13:06 2015 >>> sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r101
Wed Sep 2 07:16:18 2015 >>> sys-libs/libunwind-1.1
Wed Sep 2 07:17:06 2015 >>> dev-util/google-perftools-2.0-r2
Wed Sep 2 07:18:38 2015 >>> media-libs/tiff-4.0.5
Wed Sep 2 07:19:14 2015 >>> dev-libs/leveldb-1.18-r1
Wed Sep 2 07:19:48 2015 >>> sys-kernel/linux-headers-4.2
Wed Sep 2 07:27:04 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtcore-5.4.2
Wed Sep 2 07:27:50 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtsql-5.4.2
Wed Sep 2 07:31:27 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtscript-5.4.2-r1
Wed Sep 2 07:33:46 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtnetwork-5.4.2
Wed Sep 2 07:35:06 2015 >>> x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.30.8-r2
Wed Sep 2 07:35:54 2015 >>> x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.64
Wed Sep 2 07:36:55 2015 >>> x11-libs/libxkbcommon-0.5.0
Wed Sep 2 07:40:59 2015 >>> app-text/libmwaw-0.3.6
Wed Sep 2 07:41:34 2015 >>> app-crypt/libsecret-0.18.3
Thu Sep 3 07:36:47 2015 >>> www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins-46.0.2490.13_beta1
Thu Sep 3 07:37:12 2015 >>> sys-apps/less-481
Thu Sep 3 07:41:56 2015 >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.2.0-r1
Thu Sep 3 08:01:03 2015 >>> media-libs/mesa-11.0.0_rc2
Thu Sep 3 08:02:22 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtdbus-5.4.2
Thu Sep 3 08:02:34 2015 >>> x11-misc/wmctrl-1.07-r1
Thu Sep 3 08:10:42 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtgui-5.4.2-r1
Thu Sep 3 08:17:51 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtwidgets-5.4.2
Thu Sep 3 08:18:44 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtopengl-5.4.2
Thu Sep 3 08:24:25 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtquick1-5.4.2
Thu Sep 3 09:22:30 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtprintsupport-5.4.2
Thu Sep 3 09:24:28 2015 >>> dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.60
Thu Sep 3 14:17:16 2015 >>> www-client/chromium-45.0.2454.85
Thu Sep 3 15:12:06 2015 >>> www-client/firefox-40.0.3
Sun Sep 6 12:00:33 2015 >>> dev-libs/vala-common-0.28.1
Sun Sep 6 12:02:50 2015 >>> dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.6.3-r5
Sun Sep 6 12:03:25 2015 >>> x11-libs/libpciaccess-0.13.4
Sun Sep 6 12:03:40 2015 >>> app-text/iso-codes-3.61
Sun Sep 6 12:04:12 2015 >>> dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.16.5
Sun Sep 6 12:05:10 2015 >>> dev-libs/libtasn1-4.6
Sun Sep 6 12:16:31 2015 >>> dev-lang/php-5.6.13
Sun Sep 6 12:22:16 2015 >>> net-nds/openldap-2.4.42
Sun Sep 6 12:27:52 2015 >>> sys-fs/udev-225
Sun Sep 6 12:28:10 2015 >>> net-misc/dhcpcd-6.9.3
Sun Sep 6 12:28:43 2015 >>> dev-libs/libgusb-0.2.6
Sun Sep 6 12:30:24 2015 >>> media-libs/libgphoto2-2.5.8
Sun Sep 6 12:32:34 2015 >>> x11-misc/colord-1.2.12
Sun Sep 6 12:33:52 2015 >>> gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.10
Sun Sep 6 13:51:39 2015 >>> sys-devel/llvm-3.7.0
Sun Sep 6 14:10:43 2015 >>> media-libs/mesa-11.0.0_rc2
Sun Sep 6 15:12:21 2015 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-libav-1.4.5-r2
Sun Sep 6 15:24:40 2015 >>> x11-libs/gtk+-3.16.6
Sun Sep 6 15:26:19 2015 >>> net-wireless/bluez-5.34
Sun Sep 6 15:26:58 2015 >>> www-client/vivaldi-1.0.264.3_p1
Sun Sep 6 15:28:11 2015 >>> x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r2
Sun Sep 6 15:32:54 2015 >>> net-misc/networkmanager-1.0.6
Sun Sep 6 15:33:58 2015 >>> app-editors/gedit-3.16.3
Sun Sep 6 15:34:51 2015 >>> gnome-extra/nm-applet-1.0.6
Sun Sep 6 15:35:20 2015 >>> net-misc/networkmanager-vpnc-1.0.6
Mon Sep 7 15:56:51 2015 >>> sys-apps/iproute2-4.2.0
Mon Sep 7 15:58:22 2015 >>> dev-python/cryptography-1.0.1
Mon Sep 7 16:58:06 2015 >>> dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.60-r1
Mon Sep 7 16:58:53 2015 >>> sys-auth/consolekit-1.0.0
Tue Sep 8 06:40:17 2015 >>> dev-libs/libassuan-2.3.0
Tue Sep 8 06:41:06 2015 >>> dev-perl/DateManip-6.510.0
Tue Sep 8 06:41:23 2015 >>> dev-ruby/rubygems-2.4.8
Tue Sep 8 06:41:35 2015 >>> virtual/rubygems-11
Tue Sep 8 06:41:52 2015 >>> dev-ruby/rake-10.4.2
Tue Sep 8 06:42:06 2015 >>> dev-ruby/power_assert-0.2.4
Tue Sep 8 06:42:23 2015 >>> dev-ruby/minitest-5.8.0
Tue Sep 8 06:42:44 2015 >>> dev-ruby/json-1.8.3
Tue Sep 8 06:43:03 2015 >>> dev-ruby/test-unit-3.1.3
Tue Sep 8 06:43:21 2015 >>> dev-ruby/racc-1.4.12
Tue Sep 8 06:43:45 2015 >>> dev-ruby/rdoc-4.1.2-r1
Tue Sep 8 09:47:35 2015 >>> x11-wm/compiz-0.8.8-r3
Tue Sep 8 09:48:28 2015 >>> x11-plugins/compiz-plugins-main-0.8.8
Tue Sep 8 09:49:44 2015 >>> x11-plugins/compiz-plugins-extra-0.8.8
Tue Sep 8 09:49:50 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.3.4
Tue Sep 8 09:50:13 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.9.2
Tue Sep 8 09:50:34 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.1
Tue Sep 8 09:50:51 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4
Tue Sep 8 09:51:12 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.8.2
Tue Sep 8 09:51:37 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.9.1
Tue Sep 8 09:53:04 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.99.917-r2
Tue Sep 8 10:05:40 2015 >>> net-misc/ssh-askpass-fullscreen-1.0-r1
Tue Sep 8 11:00:21 2015 >>> x11-misc/gtkdialog-0.8.3
Tue Sep 8 11:00:30 2015 >>> xfce-extra/xfce4-composite-editor-0
Tue Sep 8 11:39:03 2015 >>> x11-apps/simple-ccsm-0.8.4-r2
Tue Sep 8 11:44:26 2015 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.99.917-r2
Tue Sep 8 11:58:48 2015 >>> x11-wm/emerald-0.8.8
Tue Sep 8 11:59:00 2015 >>> x11-themes/emerald-themes-0.5.2
Tue Sep 8 12:43:19 2015 >>> x11-themes/xfwm4-themes-4.10.0
Tue Sep 8 13:07:54 2015 >>> x11-apps/fusion-icon-0.1-r4
Tue Sep 8 13:35:58 2015 >>> media-gfx/imagemagick-6.9.2.0
Tue Sep 8 13:42:52 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtxml-5.4.2
Tue Sep 8 14:00:51 2015 >>> x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1-r2
Tue Sep 8 15:07:14 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtchooser-0_p20150102
Tue Sep 8 15:08:01 2015 >>> media-libs/libmng-2.0.3
Tue Sep 8 15:08:38 2015 >>> media-libs/libdca-0.0.5-r3
Tue Sep 8 15:11:03 2015 >>> dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.26-r9
Tue Sep 8 15:16:06 2015 >>> media-libs/xvid-1.3.4
Tue Sep 8 15:22:55 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-5.4.2
Tue Sep 8 15:23:34 2015 >>> x11-libs/libwnck-3.14.0
Tue Sep 8 15:23:46 2015 >>> dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.44.0
Tue Sep 8 15:25:32 2015 >>> media-libs/libsdl-1.2.15-r9
Tue Sep 8 15:25:47 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtx11extras-5.4.2
Tue Sep 8 15:34:34 2015 >>> dev-qt/qtquick1-5.4.2
Tue Sep 8 15:35:58 2015 >>> media-sound/audacious-3.6.2
Tue Sep 8 15:41:46 2015 >>> media-sound/pulseaudio-6.0
Tue Sep 8 15:42:27 2015 >>> app-mobilephone/heimdall-1.4.1
Tue Sep 8 15:43:14 2015 >>> xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.12.1-r2
Tue Sep 8 15:44:07 2015 >>> x11-libs/libwnck-2.31.0
Tue Sep 8 15:46:29 2015 >>> media-libs/netpbm-10.70.00
Tue Sep 8 15:55:25 2015 >>> media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-1.4.5
Tue Sep 8 16:14:59 2015 >>> x11-libs/wxGTK-3.0.2.0-r2
Tue Sep 8 16:15:56 2015 >>> xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.10.0-r1
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sadhu n00b
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I've got the same problem. After inputting password slim freezes. Stopping xdm and manually running startxfce4 works fine.
I think it may have happened after some of those updates:
Code: | Sat Sep 5 21:26:42 2015 >>> media-plugins/live-2015.08.07
Sat Sep 5 21:26:48 2015 >>> dev-libs/vala-common-0.28.1
Sat Sep 5 21:27:02 2015 >>> dev-libs/libinput-1.0.1
Sat Sep 5 21:27:24 2015 >>> net-misc/dhcpcd-6.9.3
Sat Sep 5 21:27:30 2015 >>> dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.50.0-r1
Sat Sep 5 21:27:53 2015 >>> app-text/iso-codes-3.61
Sat Sep 5 21:28:12 2015 >>> net-misc/youtube-dl-2015.09.03
Sat Sep 5 21:29:43 2015 >>> dev-lang/vala-0.28.1
Sat Sep 5 21:30:57 2015 >>> net-nds/openldap-2.4.42
Sat Sep 5 21:31:28 2015 >>> dev-libs/libtasn1-4.6
Sat Sep 5 21:31:59 2015 >>> dev-libs/libgusb-0.2.6
Sat Sep 5 21:32:56 2015 >>> net-wireless/bluez-5.34
Sat Sep 5 21:33:27 2015 >>> gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.10
Sat Sep 5 21:33:35 2015 >>> dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.16.5
Sat Sep 5 21:34:09 2015 >>> sys-block/gparted-0.23.0
Sat Sep 5 21:37:23 2015 >>> x11-libs/gtk+-3.16.6
Sat Sep 5 21:37:46 2015 >>> app-editors/gedit-3.16.3
Sat Sep 5 23:15:50 2015 >>> www-client/chromium-45.0.2454.85
Sun Sep 6 00:14:21 2015 >>> media-video/mplayer-1.2_pre20150730
Sun Sep 6 20:30:28 2015 >>> dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.6.3-r5
Sun Sep 6 20:30:39 2015 >>> sys-apps/iproute2-4.2.0
Sun Sep 6 20:31:26 2015 >>> x11-misc/colord-1.2.12
Sun Sep 6 20:33:20 2015 >>> sys-fs/udev-225
Sun Sep 6 23:58:57 2015 >>> dev-python/cryptography-1.0.1
Mon Sep 7 22:14:26 2015 >>> app-arch/unrar-5.3.3
Mon Sep 7 22:14:58 2015 >>> sys-apps/util-linux-2.27
Mon Sep 7 22:15:21 2015 >>> sys-fs/xfsprogs-4.2.0
Mon Sep 7 23:22:24 2015 >>> sys-devel/llvm-3.7.0-r1
Mon Sep 7 23:22:28 2015 >>> sys-devel/clang-3.7.0-r100
Mon Sep 7 23:26:34 2015 >>> media-libs/mesa-11.0.0_rc3
Mon Sep 7 23:26:51 2015 >>> sys-auth/consolekit-1.0.0
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kiksen Guru
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi.
Maybe the problem is related to the upgrade to consolekit 1.0. More info in the bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560088.
If you're on ~ and have upgrade consolekit it's worth trying a downgrade. |
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sadhu n00b
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, downgrading consolekit solved it! Thanks. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pointer to this bug.
There is no need to downgrade, as per the bug slim has now been patched and works again. _________________ "Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer. Art is everything else we do." - Donald Knuth |
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