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devsk Advocate
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:40 pm Post subject: what happened to the gnome-panel ebuild? |
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Does anybody what happened to the gnome-panel-3.8 that was in portage some time. I did not get any news about its removal but its not in the tree anymore.
Does anynody have any references to discussion etc. about why it was removed? The Fallback session does not work if gnome-panel is not there. |
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devsk Advocate
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Does nobody know about this? |
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poncho Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 06 Mar 2011 Posts: 92
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Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: Bay Area, CA
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szczerb Veteran
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Poland => Lodz
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say that XFCE is a better approximation of the Gnome2 days |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'd say that XFCE is a better approximation of the Gnome2 days | Mate is better yet. |
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devsk Advocate
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Folks: I use KDE myself...
Its not about me. Its about who I provide this env to. And those folks need gnome-3 with minimal disruption to gnome-2 habits. |
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tclover Guru
Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 516
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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devsk wrote: | ...they decided to remove the whole gnome-panel, without any explanation. |
That's funny. You can guess the whys of removing the fallback mode... So GNOME/SystemD OS are openly moving to that single option/*choice(?)* option. "No fall back mode because it hurts our shiny brand?!" or something.
I already secured a few gnome-2 ebuilds I use a few months ago. As things are and going... Big shit await those who did not secure their whereabouts?! (pun intended) Too funny. _________________ home/:mkinitramfs-ll/:supervision/:e-gtk-theme/:overlay/ |
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szczerb Veteran
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Poland => Lodz
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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devsk, maybe Cinnamon could be the answer? Haven't tried it in a long time so don't know what's the state. But it was Gnome3 and the panel stuff is independent of Gnome and paramount to the whole concept, so won't be removed or deprecated.
Tony0945, what's the current state of running Evolution with mate? Last time I checked there were major problems with the keyring and other things. And at work I just need Evo, so Mate was not an option. |
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devsk Advocate
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I want the minimum maintenance headache and anything gnome-2 is backwards with respect to that principle. But I can't ignore people's concern with gnome shell and having to learn a new desktop paradigm. So, fallback mode seems to be a good supported compromise. May be the folks, when exposed to gnome-3 in fallback mode, will try the new desktop paradigm and like it, and this whole issue goes away. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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szczerb Veteran
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Poland => Lodz
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have almost 5GB of work emails from the last 4 years stored in evolution and don't want try migrating it. Starting fresh is not really an option since sometimes it proved useful to find some old information there.
Also I just like Evolution |
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khayyam Watchman
Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Posts: 6227 Location: Room 101
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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szczerb wrote: | I have almost 5GB of work emails from the last 4 years stored in evolution and don't want try migrating it. Starting fresh is not really an option since sometimes it proved useful to find some old information there. |
szczerb ... which is why you should have chosen a proper mail standard, like microsoft word, from the outset as then you could have used any mail client that supported this standard :)
... but seriously, do these clients not simply use maildir/mbox, and what is it that needs "migrating"?
best ... khay |
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szczerb Veteran
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Poland => Lodz
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one
Actually, current Evolution seems to use mbox. I remember some conversion/migration happened after 2.32.
Anyway I just like it as a mail client and XFCE is just fine for me as well. I was just curious if the issue between Mate and Evolution has been somehow resolved. |
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Leio Developer
Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 494 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:13 am Post subject: |
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can't imagine anything wrong with evolution in MATE; I know people who just use evolution with awesome WM and so on successfully. Where is the existing bug report in case there are problems? _________________ GNOME team lead; GStreamer; MIPS/ARM64 |
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