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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P

At least the French satellite was launched on a reliable booster and not some ESA piece of shit.

Of course a statist authoritarian like you would think it great that a Country is able to compete with a private company. Way to go serf!

wildhorse is not an appropriate name for you. As a willing serf of the state, I hereby rename you tamegelding.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split first three posts from SpaceX at it again

wildhorse: That other thread was off to a good start. Why this CONSTANT us-vs-them, insisting on derailing everything into a chest-beating degenerate spiral down the toilet.

A viable and ultimately economically flourishing space program is an important component of humanity's long-term survival. Progress in this area needs to be praised, not turned into a "oh yea but my dad's rocket is bigger than yours" series of kindergarten-level "arguments".

That a private company is doing what previously involved state-level actors or at least massive state-level support, is quite remarkable and noteworthy.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Split first three posts from SpaceX at it again

wildhorse: That other thread was off to a good start. Why this CONSTANT us-vs-them, insisting on derailing everything into a chest-beating degenerate spiral down the toilet.
Where do you see "us-vs-them"? Who is us? Who is them? I simply compared the space transportation programme of two developing countries - that is USA (them, 1 satellite with 1 launch) vs. India (them, 6 satellites at once).
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A viable and ultimately economically flourishing space program is an important component of humanity's long-term survival. Progress in this area needs to be praised, not turned into a "oh yea but my dad's rocket is bigger than yours" series of kindergarten-level "arguments".

That a private company is doing what previously involved state-level actors or at least massive state-level support, is quite remarkable and noteworthy.
Your problem is that I am not buying this nonsense (and now you brought in "us-vs-them". SpaceX is trying to do what Arianespace is doing for three decades. Suck it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P


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next time try it without stolen German technology and abducted scientists.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:lol:

And in a moment some idiot will write about the Spanish...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P

At least the French satellite was launched on a reliable booster and not some ESA piece of shit.

Of course a statist authoritarian like you would think it great that a Country is able to compete with a private company. Way to go serf!

wildhorse is not an appropriate name for you. As a willing serf of the state, I hereby rename you tamegelding.


that 'ESA piece of shit' Ariane 5?

With 41 successful launches out of 42?
Last failure in 2002?

Ariane 5 ES?
4 of 4 starts a success?


Compared to

Atlas5
41 successful launches out of 42
Last failure in 2007?

I take the Ariane.

The best part: Atlas is of course partially russian - no surprise it is so reliable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
Akkara wrote:
Split first three posts from SpaceX at it again

wildhorse: That other thread was off to a good start. Why this CONSTANT us-vs-them, insisting on derailing everything into a chest-beating degenerate spiral down the toilet.
Where do you see "us-vs-them"? Who is us? Who is them? I simply compared the space transportation programme of two developing countries - that is USA (them, 1 satellite with 1 launch) vs. India (them, 6 satellites at once).
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A viable and ultimately economically flourishing space program is an important component of humanity's long-term survival. Progress in this area needs to be praised, not turned into a "oh yea but my dad's rocket is bigger than yours" series of kindergarten-level "arguments".

That a private company is doing what previously involved state-level actors or at least massive state-level support, is quite remarkable and noteworthy.
Your problem is that I am not buying this nonsense (and now you brought in "us-vs-them". SpaceX is trying to do what Arianespace is doing for three decades. Suck it up.

Hey tamegelding. You could have replied with a much more succinct answer:

I'm just a Weak Little Troll.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
Old School wrote:
wildhorse wrote:
WOW! The USA is able to launch a satellite! This is so exciting.

In other news: India launches five foreign satellites.

:P

At least the French satellite was launched on a reliable booster and not some ESA piece of shit.

Of course a statist authoritarian like you would think it great that a Country is able to compete with a private company. Way to go serf!

wildhorse is not an appropriate name for you. As a willing serf of the state, I hereby rename you tamegelding.


that 'ESA piece of shit' Ariane 5?

With 41 successful launches out of 42?
Last failure in 2002?

Ariane 5 ES?
4 of 4 starts a success?


Compared to

Atlas5
41 successful launches out of 42
Last failure in 2007?

I take the Ariane.

The best part: Atlas is of course partially russian - no surprise it is so reliable.

Calm down Herr energyman.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
I simply compared the space transportation programme of two developing countries - that is USA (them, 1 satellite with 1 launch) vs. India (them, 6 satellites at once).


I'm not trying put down the Indian launch by any means, but you are very much overstating the achievement of putting six satellites up at once. It's still an impressive feat and the ISRO has good reason to be proud. I would imagine the additional deployments added to the complexity of the logistics they had to face. Still, at the end of the day, 5 of the 6 were tiny little things.

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The French satellite which weighs 714kg (1,574lb) is the rocket's main cargo. The other satellites are much smaller and weigh between 7-15kg.


The PSLV is a completely different class of rocket than the Falcon 9 and it's designed for different purpose. One of it's design goals is providing a commercial means for putting satellites into Sun Synchronous orbit to compete with the Russians who were previously the only ones offering such a commercial service. Stats from wikipedia:

PLSV Capacity
Payload to LEO 3,250 kilograms (7,170 lb)
Payload to HCO 1,600 kilograms (3,500 lb)
Payload to GTO 1,410 kilograms (3,110 lb)


The Falcon 9 is intended to take heavier loads up into the region between low earth orbit and geosynchronous orbit, with LEO being what appears to be their main target based on the government contracts they are chasing.

Falcon 9 Capacity
Payload to LEO 13,150 kg (28,990 lb)
Payload to GTO 4,850 kg (10,690 lb)

It's a poor comparison, and you're obviously only bringing it up because you're trying to bait folks. But keep on trolling.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure a smart person like our favorite gelding knew that the previous Falcon 9 launched in mid July lofted 6 172 kilogram satellites for Orbcomm.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Way to go serf!

wildhorse is not an appropriate name for you. As a willing serf of the state, I hereby rename you tamegelding.

:lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akkara wrote:
A viable and ultimately economically flourishing space program is an important component of humanity's long-term survival.

I doubt it. Humanity isn't going anywhere. We will probably either go extinct or transcend our biological form before we overcome all the barriers to interstellar flight and/or terraforming. Sorry, no Star Trek for you.

Humanity's future is more likely to be all of us bottled up in digital form, living in virtual reality inside some giant, indestructible mainframe powered by geothermal heat ten miles deep in the bedrock.
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The future of mankind (if there is any) has to be in some mind-altering substances, like LSD, but seeing how it went for baby boomers, I'm doubtful. What is more likely, is that there will be new pharaohs, and they will alter the rest chemically/genetically, in such way that the masses are mean at writing Ruby, but ask them anything unrelated you get "Moooo. Obama. Bush."
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The future of mankind (if there is any) has to be in some mind-altering substances, like LSD, but seeing how it went for baby boomers, I'm doubtful. What is more likely, is that there will be new pharaohs, and they will alter the rest chemically/genetically, in such way that the masses are mean at writing Ruby, but ask them anything unrelated you get "Moooo. Obama. Bush."
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, India's space program is better.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is notageek the one on the far left :lol:
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You're doing it wrong. The popular perception in this forums is that I wear a turban and have a thick beard. The guy on the left has neither. And no he couldn't have shaved it and taken this photograph because he'd have lighter skin under his erstwhile beard.
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digital form, living in virtual reality inside some giant, indestructible mainframe powered by geothermal heat ten miles deep in the bedrock.


Could be there already.

In which case I have several complaints to register with whoever programmed me.
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You're doing it wrong. The popular perception in this forums is that I wear a turban and have a thick beard. The guy on the left has neither. And no he couldn't have shaved it and taken this photograph because he'd have lighter skin under his erstwhile beard.


So you're not a Sikh? :?:
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I got a kick out of the guys wearing the hardhats. :lol:
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