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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:47 am    Post subject: [Socialist Cheaters] Causes of Deadly WA Mudslide Revealed Reply with quote

Causes of Deadly Washington Mudslide Revealed in Scientific Report

Wasn't NG a respected source at one time?

I'm a level 3 Tree Hugger, so I was curious to see the answer(s). I was expecting a GW rant, but was surprised at what I found.

The title is definitive: "Causes Revealed"
The subtitle backpedals: "May have"

The article opens with others causes, while reiterating what "may have" been a cause.

Then the article finally mentions the common occurrence of mudslides for thousands of years. Not too important though.

Oh, and the mudslide which was worse prior to logging? Don't worry about that. That's just a tertiary data point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classic example of bullshit journalism. Take the facts and claim the opposite of their real meaning.

This reminds me a great deal of the article juniper once posted which took clear-cut scientific evidence that there is no relationship between gun control legislation and levels of violent crime and tried to pretend through similar "sleight of hand" that it was evidence of the opposite.

Such "journalists" should be forced to make career changes, as should their editors.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
Classic example of bullshit journalism. Take the facts and claim the opposite of their real meaning.

This reminds me a great deal of the article juniper once posted which took clear-cut scientific evidence that there is no relationship between gun control legislation and levels of violent crime and tried to pretend through similar "sleight of hand" that it was evidence of the opposite.

Such "journalists" should be forced to make career changes, as should their editors.
Eyeballs & money = pandering. There's no money pressuring them to be honest / accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
This reminds me a great deal of the article juniper once posted which took clear-cut scientific evidence that there is no relationship between gun control legislation and levels of violent crime and tried to pretend through similar "sleight of hand" that it was evidence of the opposite


your memory is weak, like when you repeatedly claim britain is the most violent place outside the Congo.

Do repost for us all to see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
This reminds me a great deal of the article juniper once posted which took clear-cut scientific evidence that there is no relationship between gun control legislation and levels of violent crime and tried to pretend through similar "sleight of hand" that it was evidence of the opposite


your memory is weak, like when you repeatedly claim britain is the most violent place outside the Congo.

Do repost for us all to see.

Everybody remembers. Everybody but you, maybe. You appear to have erased it from your brain in shame.

I'm not going to dig for it (maybe pjp can find it), but allow me to refresh your memory. I was demanding that you produce actual, credible evidence that increased gun restriction has any positive outcomes, such as reduced incidence of homicide or violent crime. You came back some time later and posted an article, the analysis of which I ridiculed and quite clearly demonstrated to all was fallacious. You acknowledged this and went off to find another. That next article was the one in question. As I very clearly and fully demonstrated for all to see, and to the point of overcoming any and all objections (even yours: you acknowledged I was right) actually demonstrated statistically that there was in fact NO RELATIONSHIP, and then went on verbally to hem and haw and use innuendo, equivocation, and plain old unsupported rhetoric to try and leave the uneducated reader with the impression that the study had demonstrated the opposite. I explained all this is great length and painstaking detail. I then asked you to try again. After some time, you came back with yet another study was even weaker, not even being based on valid statistics to begin with.

So far, that second study you produced that day is the only statistically valid evidence you have produced in support of your anti-gun-nut claims, and because of your lack of education, you relied upon the second-hand journalistic interpretation of the study rather than reading and understanding the actual implications of the study for yourself (which were obvious to anyone who has actually used statistics beyond first-year academic setting). The quantitative analysis clearly demonstrated that the relationships tested for by the authors DOES NOT EXIST.

And now, after some time has passed, your science-hating, fact-denying, self-healing, reality-resistant brain has actually obliterated this incredibly valuable and potentially life-altering learning experience from your mind. Amazing. Truly amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
I'm not going to dig for it (maybe pjp can find it), but allow me to refresh your memory. I was demanding that you produce actual, credible evidence that increased gun restriction has any positive outcomes, such as reduced incidence of homicide or violent crime. You came back some time later and posted an article, the analysis of which I ridiculed and quite clearly demonstrated to all was fallacious. You acknowledged this and went off to find another. That next article was the one in question. As I very clearly and fully demonstrated for all to see, and to the point of overcoming any and all objections (even yours: you acknowledged I was right) actually demonstrated statistically that there was in fact NO RELATIONSHIP, and then went on verbally to hem and haw and use innuendo, equivocation, and plain old unsupported rhetoric to try and leave the uneducated reader with the impression that the study had demonstrated the opposite. I explained all this is great length and painstaking detail. I then asked you to try again. After some time, you came back with yet another study was even weaker, not even being based on valid statistics to begin with.

So far, that second study you produced that day is the only statistically valid evidence you have produced in support of your anti-gun-nut claims, and because of your lack of education, you relied upon the second-hand journalistic interpretation of the study rather than reading and understanding the actual implications of the study for yourself (which were obvious to anyone who has actually used statistics beyond first-year academic setting). The quantitative analysis clearly demonstrated that the relationships tested for by the authors DOES NOT EXIST.


Do repost. pjp as far as I know is not on your payroll. But if you can't find it, I guess we will just have to take your word for it.

I wouldn't knock relying on second hand journalistic interpretation of statistics, given the only evidence that britain is some kind of crime free for all is a daily mail article.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were the one posting so-called evidence of your claims, not me. I merely pointed out that it actually showed the opposite of what you thought it did.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a (different) room you two. Your 96'ing is disturbing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensationalism, you make a headline to attract attention, and then you slowly ease away from sensational claim to the more neutral text (which in itself is boring and worthless). It's how everything works nowadays. :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
Sensationalism, you make a headline to attract attention, and then you slowly ease away from sensational claim to the more neutral text (which in itself is boring and worthless). It's how everything works nowadays. :lol:
byproduct of every second update w.r.t. news reporting and over-saturation of news providers each requiring you to visit their site over their rivals.

"cat dies"
"cat dies as airplane falls from the sky*" (*the plane was in a different country)


what's going to attract headlines.. thats why I try to read as many sources as possible to filter out as much bias as possible
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cat killed by falling airplane piloted by Muslim Elvis impersonator belonged to racist pedophile who molested 14 year old blonde claimed to be illegitimate child of Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton.
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Bones McCracker wrote:
Cat killed by falling airplane piloted by Muslim Elvis impersonator belonged to racist pedophile who molested 14 year old blonde claimed to be illegitimate child of Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton.
:lol: which Obama made legitimate by pushing a bill in a Senate while everyone was distracted by who fired the missile.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Cat killed by falling airplane piloted by Muslim Elvis impersonator belonged to racist pedophile who molested 14 year old blonde claimed to be illegitimate child of Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton.
:lol: which Obama made legitimate by pushing a bill in a Senate while everyone was distracted by who fired the missile, which is Bush's fault.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is certain. The plane didn't crash due to faulty design. That was a design decision.
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