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Windmill Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: Differences between Gentoo and Funtoo |
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What are the differences between Gentoo and Funtoo? |
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ubersolid n00b
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 13 Location: Finland
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asturm Developer
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8936
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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ubersolid wrote: | http://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux#Differences_between_Funtoo_Linux_and_Gentoo_Linux
that explains it, I think |
except that package version infos seem to be completely outdated. |
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666threesixes666 Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1248 Location: 42.68n 85.41w
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:45 am Post subject: |
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mmmm yeah git! i dont like funtoos site structure at all, but alas git speaks to me. revision control vs sync against server x out in space = win.... |
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Yamakuzure Advocate
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2284 Location: Adendorf, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: |
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The "cvs-to-git" portage tree migration project is underway. For a few years now. I hope they'll eventually manage to get it done, but alas, it's a huge thing. _________________ Important German:- "Aha" - German reaction to pretend that you are really interested while giving no f*ck.
- "Tja" - German reaction to the apocalypse, nuclear war, an alien invasion or no bread in the house.
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Windmill Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Posts: 105
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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So that's essentially the difference? Updating system? |
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ulenrich Veteran
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:40 am Post subject: |
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When I was begining with Gentoo I had no luck at all with mixing Gentoo+stable and some unstable frontends I was interested in: I didn't get all the dependencies when I was a newbie.
Therefore I tried Funtoo. At that time it was kind of a guided Gentoo~unstable:
All of the toolchain kept stable mixed with fancy new stuff: desktop,browser etc...
... Just what a newbie wants to have, just fun. |
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666threesixes666 Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1248 Location: 42.68n 85.41w
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:45 am Post subject: |
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drobbins the creator of gentoo is at the helm of funtoo, where the council and/or foundation??? are at the helm of gentoo... funtoo is basically his playground to do what ever the heck he wants... where this is more community driven & commanding stability/reliability. they do not have systemd, though they have/will have a separate build called FOAM supporting systemd. drobbins is 39... i was asking him stuff tonight.
http://linuxcrazy.com/podcasts/LC-42-drobbins.ogg
listen to this podcast of linux crazy interviewing him. |
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Shamus397 Apprentice
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Location: Ur-th
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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The GIT integration with Portage is one major difference (and it's freaking awesome), and the other major difference is how the networking is handled. Other than that, they tend to be more aggressive in masking the toolchain (and other system critical packages)--which is understandable.
As a user of both, I really, really hope that Gentoo gets the GIT integration into portage soon! |
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666threesixes666 Veteran
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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i just installed funtoo last night on my desktop. git is amazingly fast at syncing. maxing out my connection. some gentoo packages are a bit more stable than my "current" tree. so far, i feel like i was living in the stone age using gentoo. the funtoo git tree is hosted on github. |
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aCOSwt Bodhisattva
Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 2537 Location: Hilbert space
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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666threesixes666 wrote: | some gentoo packages are a bit more stable than my "current" tree. |
I expect your observation to be invalid for, at least, the sys-kernel/ck-sources package... _________________
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peje Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 100
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi another difference -> profiles:
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funtoo~ # eselect profile list
Currently available arch profiles:
[1] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/arch/x86-64bit *
[2] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/arch/pure64
Currently available build profiles:
[3] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/build/stable
[4] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/build/current *
[5] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/build/experimental
Currently available flavor profiles:
[6] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/flavor/minimal
[7] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/flavor/core
[8] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/flavor/desktop *
[9] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/flavor/workstation
[10] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/flavor/hardened
Currently available mix-ins profiles:
[11] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/audio (auto)
[12] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/console-extras (auto)
[13] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/dvd (auto)
[14] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/gnome
[15] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/kde *
[16] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/mate
[17] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/media (auto)
[18] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/print (auto)
[19] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/python3-only
[20] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/rhel5-compat
[21] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/server-db
[22] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/server-mail
[23] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/server-web
[24] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/X (auto)
[25] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/xfce
[26] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/vmware-guest
[27] funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/hardened
gentoo~#eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
[1] default/linux/amd64/13.0 *
[2] default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
[3] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
[4] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
[5] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
[6] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde
[7] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd
[8] default/linux/amd64/13.0/developer
[9] default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib
[10] default/linux/amd64/13.0/x32
[11] hardened/linux/amd64
[12] hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
[13] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
[14] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
[15] hardened/linux/amd64/x32
[16] hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64
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