LiveDVD

axxackall · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject: LiveDVD

LiveCD is excelent to begin installation, or to fix some problems. But the volume is limited by 700MB - not musch to keep tools, no need to mention distfiles.

On the other hand DVD can keep up to 4.7GB - enough to keep all distfiles and most of binary-precompiled packages too.

So, where are we with Gentoo LiveDVD? Has anyone tried it yet? Is it possible at all?
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Ian · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject:

That's a long download...

In all seriousness though, if someone was to make it and throw it up on the gentoo store along with the LiveCDs, I'm sure people would buy it.

gsfgf · Veteran Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 1266

i don't think that any of the livecds aree full, so until GRP gets a lot more pkgs a livedvd isn't necessary.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject:

You can get about 2Gb on a CD with the compressed loop filesystem, like Knoppix does.

A single Gentoo DVD is possible but DVDs are more expensive to produce, so its not good value for money. There are also at least two incompatible standards of DVD DIY, so it would have to be a mastered silver disk.

Ask LinuxFormat to give it away as a cover mount - Bootable Gentoo DVD. They have don it with other distros.
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wolvenwraith · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:18 pm Post subject:

Actually, I just realized I voted wrong. I have a bootable Gentoo LiveDVD (an old one, but nevertheless I have one) from one of the old linux magazines. I believe it was linux format, and I probably still have it around somewhere.

axxackall · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:41 am Post subject:

if it IS possible, does anyone know a procedure how to make my own bootable DVD?
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject:

axxackall,

The iso9660 filesystem doesn't break until the volume size gets to 4Gb, then it starts to fracture rather than die. You can have files past this limit but not directories. Luckly, directories are all grouped at the start of the session (or disk, if its a single session disk)

Make yourself a boot floopy image file, collect together all the files you want on CD/DVD, put it together in the right order with the right names and give it a go.

I recommend RW media until you get it right
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ewan.paton · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject:

TPC · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:

Where's the "it probably can be done, and its probably usefull, but I don't want it because I have high-speed internet connection"

El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Veteran Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: Seattle

Random extra feature that nobody wants/needs : It would be so cool if you could pop it in a normal DVD player and have it play a presentation/movie about gentoo and its benefits :-D

gsfgf · Veteran Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 1266

I hear knoppix is working on a livedvd wich does seem more useful than a gentoo one.
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etnoy · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject:

The Gentoo LiveCD (nostages) takes about 10% of a CD, mainly because it hasn't got X, KDE, GNOME and other space-hungry apps. The Official Gentoo LiveCD is good not only because it's a very stripped-down and functional system, but also because the download is rather small to download. That is more important to me than anything else.
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axxackall · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:10 am Post subject:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:57 pm Post subject:

axxackall,

Snake007uk · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:

yeah i trieds to do my own one, this is what i did, i used winISO to open up the gentoo livecd iso image and just added about 2gb of pre compiled binaries i made. thats it i didnt mess with any setting ewtc..

at that was it it booted the gentoo boot screen cam up but when you press enter it failed on initrd?? no idea what to do now ?

this would be cool that way i could make pre compiled packages and place on live cd 4GB to play with as well

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KingPunk · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:54 am Post subject:

well. i have a bootable mandrake 9.2_rc2 dvd.
works quite well too. i got it from a linux magazine that i suscribe to.
of course, why use the bootable dvd? .. i gots me a gentoo

(i've thought about making a bootable custom gentoo dvd for about a year now.)
Im quite suprised that nobody has attempted atleast an "experimental" bootable dvd!
With all of the innovative people that run gentoo on a normal basis, and nobody has
yet to do this. c'mon people!

the iso9660 filesystem would do, but sheesh.. even 3ish gig of binaries would cut
a big portion out of the cake. (not to mention playing with the limits of the iso9660
filesystem and pushing 4+gig)

anyways, i hope something comes about this. its a great idea!
but better yet, what about something, like a knoppix-like enviroment.
where you have your favorite DE, and stuff.. running straight from dvd.
oh the possibilities :twisted:

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AgentSmith · n00b Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 5

Actually, it's 4.5 Gb's

. The temporary solution I can think of now, is to boot the pc with a standard gentoo live cd and then switch to your custom made dvd. This way you don't have to worry about getting your dvd bootable. But if someone wants to write a how-to about making a bootable livedvd, by all means, go ahead!

dolbz · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject:

renihs · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject:

hmm this thread is quite old...
never stumbled over it. i am working for some time now (with long delays inbetween) on a gentoo based livedvd. currently it uses a 2.6.9 kernel with udev (hotplugging). at the moment development paused again. i need to adapt locations of the gl-libs to get opengl-update working (no 3d-accel for nvidia at the moment). my ibm t42 (ati mobile 7500

) however starts with 3d-acceleration already

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=275608&highlight=livedvd

madmango · Guru Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 507 Location: PA, USA

Hm. No DVD drive.
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