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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Chromium youtube html5 videos don't play (again) Reply with quote

I wrote (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-971752.html) about a problem with viewing youtube videos. I solved the problem linked, but a week ago videos stopped working again. This time a black screen with white dots (like a CRT TV without antena) is shown (with an error message which I will paste as soon as I can get on my home PC). When right-clicking on the video window the html5 menu shows up (I am NOT in the html5 trial). I deleted the cookies and that didn't fix the problem (like the last time). Any input on that will be appriciated. Some videos do play, but they are played with the flash player.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a year ago i could successfully play 90% of videos on youtube without having adobe flash installed. now it seems that webm is supported only occasionally. i crosschecked this with a friend on a windows machine and he could play videos i could not in html5, but i suppose that would be the h264 codec.

currently i am not in html5 beta (deleting cookies after each session) but i add this get parameter to the youtube URL when i want to switch: &html5=1. this works fine for only a few videos, in most cases there is a fallback to lightspark.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please report problems you see as bugs. One still open I'm aware of is https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489688

Some further advice:
- always post the version number of Chromium, specific video URLs to reproduce, and whether you're using html5 or not, and chromium USE flags, especially bindist.
- try to reproduce with google-chrome
- try turning off hardware acceleration (Settings -> Advanced -> System -> Use hardware acceleration when available)

Please report back how that worked for you. Don't hesitate to file a bug if you're still seeing issues, whether it's google-chrome or chromium. I'd like both to provide the best possible experience on Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is clear now that google does block html5 usage in favour of adobe flash. when you play your not working videos via youtube.com/tv it plays without problem without having adobe flash installed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e3k wrote:
it is clear now that google does block html5 usage in favour of adobe flash. when you play your not working videos via youtube.com/tv it plays without problem without having adobe flash installed.


Please see my post above and report a bug. I'd really like to help you, but need the info mentioned there. I don't think Google is blocking html5, especially with deprecation of npapi: http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html . Still, having specific steps to reproduce the problem can help in actually identifying and fixing it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am not sure if you are interested also in issues with firefox. please have a look before i open a bug:

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$ emerge -pv firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ~] www-client/firefox-24.1.1  USE="alsa bindist dbus gstreamer jit libnotify minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-sqlite -wifi" LINGUAS="de sk -af -ak -ar -as -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -el -en_GB -en_ZA -eo -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu" 0 kB


here is a video that does require flash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc&html5=1
i joined the html5 trial also

this is the link that works fine for me: https://www.youtube.com/tv/#/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc&mode=transport

lately i upgraded to ff24 from ff17 to be able to use h264 via media-libs/gstreamer-1.0.10:1.0. this did not change the behavior.

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by the way i still think it is googles fault. i post videos on off topic gentoo forums which can be played via html5, but after some time i noticed that i can not play some of the videos anymore despite the fact that i did not change my configuration.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, with these specific links it seems indeed to be more of an issue at the Google (Youtube) side - especially that it also happens in Firefox.

Please take a look at http://icetwy.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/youtube-and-vimeo-forcing-html5-video-chrome-firefox/ and https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/html5ify/jikbjpjgjmmdhcmlagappehlpiljoaop and https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-options/bdokagampppgbnjfdlkfpphniapiiifn (I have not tested these extensions for anything, just copy-pasting links here).

It'd be interesting to see if they work for you. Please consider reporting a problem with the videos to youtube (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube?hl=en).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phajdan.jr wrote:
It'd be interesting to see if they work for you.

sorry but that userscript stuff is not trustful enough for me. i will go on now with the /tv/#/ workaround.
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by the way look at this interesting move of adobe: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/features.html
how come i can play videos on that site without flash ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

e3k wrote:
sorry but that userscript stuff is not trustful enough for me.


I can totally understand that.

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i will go on now with the /tv/#/ workaround.


Does it means it works for you? Could you explain more how to apply it (e.g. where in the url you put /tv/#/)?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also possibly upstream Chromium bug. I used to experience the same on their nightly builds.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phajdan.jr wrote:
Could you explain more how to apply it (e.g. where in the url you put /tv/#/)?

you take a regular youtube link like:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc
and put 'tv/#/' behind youtube.com/
the outcome is
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/tv/#/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc


it is not the regular youtube player, but some kind of google tv player. for me it plays 100% of the videos that do not play the regular youtube way. without flash or h264.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this problem (actually, I still do, while I wait for chromium to recompile). For some reason, bindist was in make.conf. It must have been there by default, or I added it without thinking. I can play some Youtube videos, but not others. I should have known that this was the problem, since Firefox installed as Aurora and Thunderbird installed as EarlyBird. I thought that it was sort of neat, and liked the names, but now I know that this was a problem (from my perspective) and not something new. For a short time I thought maybe the problem was with my audio setup since chromium displayed an audio error message in the console when I tried to play a video, or maybe something wrong in my .config since I copied it from another installation, or maybe my .cache directory was too small (it's mounted as tmpfs because I use an S.S.D.), but those were probably red herrings.

I actually remember this from installing Linux from Scratch -- I wondered why in the world I got Aurora instead of Firefox, until I read the documentation. Yeah, that's always helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject: tv/#/ workaround does not work anymore Reply with quote

e3k wrote:
phajdan.jr wrote:
Could you explain more how to apply it (e.g. where in the url you put /tv/#/)?

you take a regular youtube link like:
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc
and put 'tv/#/' behind youtube.com/
the outcome is
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/tv/#/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc


it is not the regular youtube player, but some kind of google tv player. for me it plays 100% of the videos that do not play the regular youtube way. without flash or h264.


tv/#/ workaround does not work anymore, google sucks.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed over the last few months that Youtube's gradually been degrading service for non-proprietary players - WebM playback is locked to 360p (when the video offers it at all) and they refuse to serve VP9 at all even though my version of Firefox supports it. Nice use of those millions they spent developing it...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant P. wrote:
I've noticed over the last few months that Youtube's gradually been degrading service for non-proprietary players - WebM playback is locked to 360p (when the video offers it at all) and they refuse to serve VP9 at all even though my version of Firefox supports it. Nice use of those millions they spent developing it...

thats all because of the other milions they get when they support what the other paying party wants.
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